Stevie Waugh Au Revoir????
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211 what a great knock.....i reckon if we add up Symonds last 10 innings and multiply it by 2 we still would be well short of 211.....lmao Symonds will have to go back and dominate the county attacks.....although he did score a squashbuckling 20 odd against that provincial team...lmao
Take a bow Steve Waugh
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Take a bow Steve Waugh
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Symonds isn't in the Test team and Steve Waugh hasn't been dropped. What's your point, JLC?
If you're still harping on about the WC squad, Jimmy Maher got the extra batsman's spot, not Symonds. Maher was in sparkling form when the squad was picked. Tugga wasn't. Simple.
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If you're still harping on about the WC squad, Jimmy Maher got the extra batsman's spot, not Symonds. Maher was in sparkling form when the squad was picked. Tugga wasn't. Simple.
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Do tell us about this "Sparkling form" that Maher was in.
Symonds was picked as a specialist 12th man to substitute on the field. Nothing more and nothing less.
Steve Waugh didnt even get a chance to represent Australia A which was a disgrace. The one lead up game he had was washed out. In one other game he hit 3 sixes and batted well in a cameo innings. So basically the selectors gave him no opportunity to make the squad. Whereas a dud like Symonds gets more lives than a cat.
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Symonds was picked as a specialist 12th man to substitute on the field. Nothing more and nothing less.
Steve Waugh didnt even get a chance to represent Australia A which was a disgrace. The one lead up game he had was washed out. In one other game he hit 3 sixes and batted well in a cameo innings. So basically the selectors gave him no opportunity to make the squad. Whereas a dud like Symonds gets more lives than a cat.
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If this bloke can't get a World Cup game ...
By MICHAEL GLEESON
07feb03
THIS was not a man about to retire. Nor was it a man who should. This was the Australian captain saying he will be captain for some time yet.
Steve Waugh yesterday was as non-committal about his future as ever, but when the New South Wales skipper turned a solid century into a mighty double ton against Victoria on day two of the Pura Cup clash at the MCG he made his statement on the field.
And he did it in front of national selector Allan Border. Waugh will, and should, now lead Australia to the West Indies in April.
Yesterday, refusing to be satisfied with a century on a wicket full of runs, he showed he is as hungry as ever.
He also showed he is hitting the ball as well as ever. Waugh said on Wednesday night he wanted a big hundred and he got it - 211 not out, his fifth first-class double century and just five short of his highest first-class score.
He loves runs and he still knows how to make them. Cutting, driving - he even attempted a hook, but not until he was 181. In the first session on Wednesday he survived when he shouldn't have. Yesterday there was none of that ugliness.
Victorian captain Brad Hodge was left in little doubt the 37-year-old Test skipper should play on.
"When anyone makes 211 they played pretty well and he got 100 last week in a one-day game so he is hitting the ball very well," Hodge said.
Asked if it surprised him that Waugh was thinking of retiring Hodge replied: "It does the way he hit the cricket ball today, yeah."
This is also a man who has turned down lucrative offers to commentate in South Africa during the World Cup.
Chances are that Waugh, the traditionalist, would want to play out the season for NSW, but you might think that, were he planning to pull the pin, he might consider the Wanderers with a microphone in his hand a more attractive proposition than the MCG with a bat in his hands.
Unless, of course, his future plans still involve carrying a bat.
This was a dream batting wicket, but Waugh made Victoria hurt yesterday, big-time.
No one suffered more than debutant David Hussey, who after dropping Waugh on four would have died the death of a thousand cuts each time one of Waugh's 19 boundaries slipped over the ropes.
Eventually, the pain ended when the Blues declared at 8-544 for an early tea.
Victoria replied in perfect fashion to be 0-132 at stumps with Jason Arnberger on 73 and Matthew Mott 53.
The final-session effort was just what the Victorians needed and put them back into the contest. "I think there's a good chance for us actually - the wicket looks very good for batting," Hodge said.
To put the lifelessness of the wicket into perspective, NSW wicketkeeper Brad Haddin made his second first-class hundred in 123 balls; Nathan Bracken slapped 38 from 41; then NSW tried six different bowlers, including part-timers Simon Katich and Michael Clarke, in 24 overs of the Victorian innings.
The need to try something different to manufacture a wicket was earlier evidenced by Victoria's unusual approach of trying to annoy and frustrate Waugh in the first hour of play by using an 8-1 off-side field and pitching the ball short and wide.
"We just tried to nullify the scoring," Hodge said. "It worked for a fair while."
Hodge was left to joke about the poison chalice that captaincy has proven for him.
"This is the second time I have captained Victoria. (I did it) once before against England and we worked it out in total we have taken about 18 wickets for 1100 runs. It's not been a perfect start," he said.
Hodge said Victoria would target the 395 follow-on figure and then worry about whether to make the match a battle for first-innings points or try and manufacture an outright win.
With the Bushrangers four points clear of NSW on the Pura Cup table, they may be best served by trying to win on the first innings and denying NSW full points.
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By MICHAEL GLEESON
07feb03
THIS was not a man about to retire. Nor was it a man who should. This was the Australian captain saying he will be captain for some time yet.
Steve Waugh yesterday was as non-committal about his future as ever, but when the New South Wales skipper turned a solid century into a mighty double ton against Victoria on day two of the Pura Cup clash at the MCG he made his statement on the field.
And he did it in front of national selector Allan Border. Waugh will, and should, now lead Australia to the West Indies in April.
Yesterday, refusing to be satisfied with a century on a wicket full of runs, he showed he is as hungry as ever.
He also showed he is hitting the ball as well as ever. Waugh said on Wednesday night he wanted a big hundred and he got it - 211 not out, his fifth first-class double century and just five short of his highest first-class score.
He loves runs and he still knows how to make them. Cutting, driving - he even attempted a hook, but not until he was 181. In the first session on Wednesday he survived when he shouldn't have. Yesterday there was none of that ugliness.
Victorian captain Brad Hodge was left in little doubt the 37-year-old Test skipper should play on.
"When anyone makes 211 they played pretty well and he got 100 last week in a one-day game so he is hitting the ball very well," Hodge said.
Asked if it surprised him that Waugh was thinking of retiring Hodge replied: "It does the way he hit the cricket ball today, yeah."
This is also a man who has turned down lucrative offers to commentate in South Africa during the World Cup.
Chances are that Waugh, the traditionalist, would want to play out the season for NSW, but you might think that, were he planning to pull the pin, he might consider the Wanderers with a microphone in his hand a more attractive proposition than the MCG with a bat in his hands.
Unless, of course, his future plans still involve carrying a bat.
This was a dream batting wicket, but Waugh made Victoria hurt yesterday, big-time.
No one suffered more than debutant David Hussey, who after dropping Waugh on four would have died the death of a thousand cuts each time one of Waugh's 19 boundaries slipped over the ropes.
Eventually, the pain ended when the Blues declared at 8-544 for an early tea.
Victoria replied in perfect fashion to be 0-132 at stumps with Jason Arnberger on 73 and Matthew Mott 53.
The final-session effort was just what the Victorians needed and put them back into the contest. "I think there's a good chance for us actually - the wicket looks very good for batting," Hodge said.
To put the lifelessness of the wicket into perspective, NSW wicketkeeper Brad Haddin made his second first-class hundred in 123 balls; Nathan Bracken slapped 38 from 41; then NSW tried six different bowlers, including part-timers Simon Katich and Michael Clarke, in 24 overs of the Victorian innings.
The need to try something different to manufacture a wicket was earlier evidenced by Victoria's unusual approach of trying to annoy and frustrate Waugh in the first hour of play by using an 8-1 off-side field and pitching the ball short and wide.
"We just tried to nullify the scoring," Hodge said. "It worked for a fair while."
Hodge was left to joke about the poison chalice that captaincy has proven for him.
"This is the second time I have captained Victoria. (I did it) once before against England and we worked it out in total we have taken about 18 wickets for 1100 runs. It's not been a perfect start," he said.
Hodge said Victoria would target the 395 follow-on figure and then worry about whether to make the match a battle for first-innings points or try and manufacture an outright win.
With the Bushrangers four points clear of NSW on the Pura Cup table, they may be best served by trying to win on the first innings and denying NSW full points.
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Steve Waugh is the greatest leader of men that the Australian cricket team has ever had.
His record as a leader will more than likely never be repeated.
The most consecutive test and one day wins speaks for it's self.
Before everyone jumps up and down about Bradmans 1948 invincibles that toured England, please remember the English side was decimated due to WW2 and the pitches were in those times uncovered.
JLC you are totally right!!
STEVE WAUGH FOR P.M
COLLINGWOOD RULES no one else matters!!!!!!
His record as a leader will more than likely never be repeated.
The most consecutive test and one day wins speaks for it's self.
Before everyone jumps up and down about Bradmans 1948 invincibles that toured England, please remember the English side was decimated due to WW2 and the pitches were in those times uncovered.
JLC you are totally right!!
STEVE WAUGH FOR P.M
COLLINGWOOD RULES no one else matters!!!!!!
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Mark Taylor - 'Waugh should quit;'
By JON PIERIK and DEAN RITCHIE
19feb03
FORMER Australian captain Mark Taylor believes it is time for Steve Waugh to be a realist and retire from international cricket.
A candid Taylor said there was no longer room for his successor in the Test side and it was time he quit.
Waugh last night responded, saying: "I'll make the decision, not anyone else."
Asked his thoughts on Waugh's dream of returning to the Australian one-day side, Taylor delivered this response on the World Cup's official website: "I don't see Steve Waugh fit into this one-day side, or even the Test side," he said.
"I think he should be more realistic and call it a day.
"He was a great player for Australia but it's time now for him to make way for others."
Waugh, speaking at the launch of a new VHS/DVD based on his historic century at the SCG last month, preferred to steer clear of Taylor's comments.
When told Taylor had suggested Waugh retire, the current Test captain said: "Why? I've got no comment to make on that one.
"It's my decision and my time. I know how I'm playing . . . I'll make the decision, not anyone else. (Other's opinions) won't influence or affect me."
Waugh has yet to make public his intentions over whether he will play on and take the Test side to the West Indies in April.
The 37-year-old has remained tight-lipped about his future since he equalled Allan Border's world record of 156 Tests in the final Ashes contest at the SCG last month.
Waugh's unforgettable hundred in that match, where he notched three figures with a boundary off the last ball of the day, was seen as the perfect swansong for the boy from Bankstown.
If he had failed in that game, Waugh's Test future would have been decided by the national selectors and he most likely would have retired.
But the decision is now solely in his own hands.
Selection chairman Trevor Hohns said before the Sydney Test Waugh would be judged on form alone. If that's the case, he has a strong argument to make himself available for the Caribbean tour.
Waugh now has two hundreds and a pair of half-centuries from his last six Tests, although he did average a modest 38.13 against England last summer.
The 15-man squad for the Windies tour is expected to be announced during the Pura Cup final in mid-March.
Dumped from the national one-day side two summers ago, Waugh has batted with the attitude of a man who wants to play on since returning to the NSW side in the New Year. He plundered a ton against Tasmania in an ING Cup match at Drummoyne and followed this with a double-hundred in the Pura Cup against Victoria at the MCG this month.
Waugh rejected several lucrative offers to commentate at the World Cup in favour of seeing out the domestic season.
Waugh's manager, Robert Joske, last night said his client had yet to decide whether he would play on.
"He is concentrating on his cricket for NSW, it's business as usual," Joske said.
"We are giving him plenty of time to make up his mind. There is really nothing to say."
Waugh's future remains a hot topic with even close friends and family unsure of his intentions.
Taylor isn't the only former teammate of Waugh's who feels it's time he moved on.
Ian Healy suggested before the Sydney Test that the smart decision for Australia's most capped cricketer would be to retire.
If Waugh was to quit, one-day skipper Ricky Ponting would assume the captaincy in both forms of the game.
Donny.
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By JON PIERIK and DEAN RITCHIE
19feb03
FORMER Australian captain Mark Taylor believes it is time for Steve Waugh to be a realist and retire from international cricket.
A candid Taylor said there was no longer room for his successor in the Test side and it was time he quit.
Waugh last night responded, saying: "I'll make the decision, not anyone else."
Asked his thoughts on Waugh's dream of returning to the Australian one-day side, Taylor delivered this response on the World Cup's official website: "I don't see Steve Waugh fit into this one-day side, or even the Test side," he said.
"I think he should be more realistic and call it a day.
"He was a great player for Australia but it's time now for him to make way for others."
Waugh, speaking at the launch of a new VHS/DVD based on his historic century at the SCG last month, preferred to steer clear of Taylor's comments.
When told Taylor had suggested Waugh retire, the current Test captain said: "Why? I've got no comment to make on that one.
"It's my decision and my time. I know how I'm playing . . . I'll make the decision, not anyone else. (Other's opinions) won't influence or affect me."
Waugh has yet to make public his intentions over whether he will play on and take the Test side to the West Indies in April.
The 37-year-old has remained tight-lipped about his future since he equalled Allan Border's world record of 156 Tests in the final Ashes contest at the SCG last month.
Waugh's unforgettable hundred in that match, where he notched three figures with a boundary off the last ball of the day, was seen as the perfect swansong for the boy from Bankstown.
If he had failed in that game, Waugh's Test future would have been decided by the national selectors and he most likely would have retired.
But the decision is now solely in his own hands.
Selection chairman Trevor Hohns said before the Sydney Test Waugh would be judged on form alone. If that's the case, he has a strong argument to make himself available for the Caribbean tour.
Waugh now has two hundreds and a pair of half-centuries from his last six Tests, although he did average a modest 38.13 against England last summer.
The 15-man squad for the Windies tour is expected to be announced during the Pura Cup final in mid-March.
Dumped from the national one-day side two summers ago, Waugh has batted with the attitude of a man who wants to play on since returning to the NSW side in the New Year. He plundered a ton against Tasmania in an ING Cup match at Drummoyne and followed this with a double-hundred in the Pura Cup against Victoria at the MCG this month.
Waugh rejected several lucrative offers to commentate at the World Cup in favour of seeing out the domestic season.
Waugh's manager, Robert Joske, last night said his client had yet to decide whether he would play on.
"He is concentrating on his cricket for NSW, it's business as usual," Joske said.
"We are giving him plenty of time to make up his mind. There is really nothing to say."
Waugh's future remains a hot topic with even close friends and family unsure of his intentions.
Taylor isn't the only former teammate of Waugh's who feels it's time he moved on.
Ian Healy suggested before the Sydney Test that the smart decision for Australia's most capped cricketer would be to retire.
If Waugh was to quit, one-day skipper Ricky Ponting would assume the captaincy in both forms of the game.
Donny.
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN !!!!
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Mark Taylor denies Steve Waugh newspaper report
The Fordham Company (Media Release) - 19 February 2003
Former Australian cricket captain and Nine Network cricket commentator Mark Taylor today vigorously denied quotes attributed to him in a Sydney newspaper calling on Steve Waugh to retire from international cricket.
The back-page report in today's Daily Telegraph was based on comments supposedly made by Taylor on the World Cup's official website.
"Since arriving in South Africa on February 9 I have not made any public comments concerning Steve Waugh, nor have I given any interviews on the subject," said Taylor. "And in the two World Cup matches that I have so far been part of as a commentator I made no reference to Steve whatsoever."
Taylor said: "I completely refute comments attributed to me in a so-called interview reported on the official ICC World Cup website dealing with Steve Waugh and several other issues."
"I have steadfastly stayed clear of the public debate concerning Steve Waugh's future," Taylor said from Johannesburg.
"Having been through something similar myself back in 1997, I can well appreciate what Steve is going through. That's why I have consistently refused to enter the debate as to whether he should keep playing or retire."
The Fordham Company (Media Release) - 19 February 2003
Former Australian cricket captain and Nine Network cricket commentator Mark Taylor today vigorously denied quotes attributed to him in a Sydney newspaper calling on Steve Waugh to retire from international cricket.
The back-page report in today's Daily Telegraph was based on comments supposedly made by Taylor on the World Cup's official website.
"Since arriving in South Africa on February 9 I have not made any public comments concerning Steve Waugh, nor have I given any interviews on the subject," said Taylor. "And in the two World Cup matches that I have so far been part of as a commentator I made no reference to Steve whatsoever."
Taylor said: "I completely refute comments attributed to me in a so-called interview reported on the official ICC World Cup website dealing with Steve Waugh and several other issues."
"I have steadfastly stayed clear of the public debate concerning Steve Waugh's future," Taylor said from Johannesburg.
"Having been through something similar myself back in 1997, I can well appreciate what Steve is going through. That's why I have consistently refused to enter the debate as to whether he should keep playing or retire."
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Waugh gets deadline for Test decision
AAP - 12 March 2003
Steve Waugh has only days to tell national selectors whether he wants to continue his Test career in the Caribbean next month.
The selection panel must know by Sunday, with a likely phone hook-up later that night to determine the 15-man squad to confront the West Indies in four Tests.
Waugh's plans aren't known and he again brushed off questions at a press conference on Tuesday ahead of Friday's Pura Cup final between Queensland and Waugh's NSW at the Gabba.
"No comment. I'm here to talk about the NSW game," Waugh told journalists.
Blues coach Steve Rixon wants Waugh to play in the Caribbean after the 37-year-old unleashed three centuries for NSW in the last five weeks.
"He's in sensational form and he would be a blessing to have in any one of those sides over there in the one-day comp right now [World Cup] and, more importantly, any four-day side or any five-day side," Rixon said.
"He's going to continue to do the business ... it's really whether Stephen himself wants to go on and no one really knows that."
National selector Trevor Hohns said he would speak with Waugh in Brisbane later this week, with the captain's future to affect the make-up of the squad.
If Waugh plays on for Australia, the race for a reserve batting spot will become even tighter with rising NSW star Michael Clarke further enhancing his claims.
AAP - 12 March 2003
Steve Waugh has only days to tell national selectors whether he wants to continue his Test career in the Caribbean next month.
The selection panel must know by Sunday, with a likely phone hook-up later that night to determine the 15-man squad to confront the West Indies in four Tests.
Waugh's plans aren't known and he again brushed off questions at a press conference on Tuesday ahead of Friday's Pura Cup final between Queensland and Waugh's NSW at the Gabba.
"No comment. I'm here to talk about the NSW game," Waugh told journalists.
Blues coach Steve Rixon wants Waugh to play in the Caribbean after the 37-year-old unleashed three centuries for NSW in the last five weeks.
"He's in sensational form and he would be a blessing to have in any one of those sides over there in the one-day comp right now [World Cup] and, more importantly, any four-day side or any five-day side," Rixon said.
"He's going to continue to do the business ... it's really whether Stephen himself wants to go on and no one really knows that."
National selector Trevor Hohns said he would speak with Waugh in Brisbane later this week, with the captain's future to affect the make-up of the squad.
If Waugh plays on for Australia, the race for a reserve batting spot will become even tighter with rising NSW star Michael Clarke further enhancing his claims.