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Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:42 am
by themonk
I see a young Jack Riewoldt, great hands, excellent lead and a good kick.
Any current liabilities will be sorted over time, that's why he was expected to go top ten in the draft.
Play hard on this one Pies and get a decent pick which may be used to get us to the pointy end.
Forget the rubbish some are stating re: PSD.
Such a shame.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:48 am
by MAY-Z
He is an awkward one
Has great hands but doesn’t have great defensive nous or work ethic (not sure which)
But isn’t tall enough to be a key forward, not speedy enough to apply pressure
Just take the end of first round pick and move on, no need to weaken ourselves by not bringing in a good pick
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 10:15 am
by watt price tully
themonk wrote:I see a young Jack Riewoldt, great hands, excellent lead and a good kick.
Any current liabilities will be sorted over time, that's why he was expected to go top ten in the draft.
Play hard on this one Pies and get a decent pick which may be used to get us to the pointy end.
Forget the rubbish some are stating re: PSD.
Such a shame.
+1. Agreed
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:27 pm
by Tanuki
themonk wrote:I see a young Jack Riewoldt, great hands, excellent lead and a good kick.
Any current liabilities will be sorted over time, that's why he was expected to go top ten in the draft.
Play hard on this one Pies and get a decent pick which may be used to get us to the pointy end.
Forget the rubbish some are stating re: PSD.
Such a shame.
He's Jack Gunston 2.0 in my opinion. Not many players kick that many goals in their first seasons. Oh well, he's gone.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:01 pm
by Johnno75
I don’t think the club would be prepared to lose him for nothing to North or WCE though. We can play hard ball to some degree but in the end will give a little to get something back.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:00 pm
by Piesnchess
[quote="Bucks5"]I like the Mark Williams philosophy. Geelong will be in flag contention for many years and we should not be strengthening them during our window.
They need to pay up or into the PSD he goes (ala Nick Stevens). We are better off getting nothing for him rather than it potentially costing us a flag.[/quote
Does Choco realise they are the oldest team in the comp and now Sellwood is gone, and at end of next season Hawkins, Guthrie, Dangermouse, Dunstan, Issac smit, etc, will all retire, and the arse will fall out of them?? You cannot replace Hawkins for one, and Henry wont either. Hes gone to an old club who is on the decline, even this yrs flag was a fluke, if the yellow maggots had not destroyed us in that Qual Final we lost very closely to them . Stuff Henry, lets bleed these hand bagger bastards dry, stuff em.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 3:00 pm
by Piesnchess
[quote="Bucks5"]I like the Mark Williams philosophy. Geelong will be in flag contention for many years and we should not be strengthening them during our window.
They need to pay up or into the PSD he goes (ala Nick Stevens). We are better off getting nothing for him rather than it potentially costing us a flag.[/quote
Does Choco realise they are the oldest team in the comp and now Sellwood is gone, and at end of next season Hawkins, Guthrie, Dangermouse, Dunstan, Issac smit, etc, will all retire, and the arse will fall out of them?? You cannot replace Hawkins for one, and Henry wont either. Hes gone to an old club who is on the decline, even this yrs flag was a fluke, if the yellow maggots had not destroyed us in that Qual Final we lost very closely to them . Stuff Henry, lets bleed these hand bagger bastards dry, stuff em.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:43 pm
by Mr Miyagi
Can change the thread title now. He officially told the club today that he wants to play for Geelong.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 5:23 pm
by piffdog
MAY-Z wrote:He is an awkward one
Has great hands but doesn’t have great defensive nous or work ethic (not sure which)
But isn’t tall enough to be a key forward, not speedy enough to apply pressure
Just take the end of first round pick and move on, no need to weaken ourselves by not bringing in a good pick
This ^^ (handclap emoji)
All this “don’t strengthen geelong”, “show every one you can’t sucker us”, "send a message and tell him he’s headed for the draft” is all just crap. This is the Essendon school of conduct and you end up with players avoiding the joint and other clubs reluctant to deal with you.
Be pragmatic - like a guarantee Geelong will. Make it happen. Focus on who we are bringing in and who we already have who can improve and not who we are losing.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 6:06 pm
by inxs88
Henry has kicked 45 goals between the seniors and reserves this year. He was drafted at Pick 17 and exceeded the potential of a 2 year draftee. Bruhn has been the opposite in his first two seasons. Graham Wright would know this and as such should ensure we drive a hard bargain with the Cats.
Also worth noting is that a future pick in currency is deferred gratification and if we go down that path, we should ask for Parfitt and a future first.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:16 pm
by scoobydoo
inxs88 wrote:Henry has kicked 45 goals between the seniors and reserves this year. He was drafted at Pick 17 and exceeded the potential of a 2 year draftee. Bruhn has been the opposite in his first two seasons. Graham Wright would know this and as such should ensure we drive a hard bargain with the Cats.
Also worth noting is that a future pick in currency is deferred gratification and if we go down that path, we should ask for Parfitt and a future first.
I’d rather have 3 first rd draft picks next year than this year.
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2022 8:20 pm
by scoobydoo
Johnno75 wrote:I don’t think the club would be prepared to lose him for nothing to North or WCE though. We can play hard ball to some degree but in the end will give a little to get something back.
They should. Set the precedent now. It should have been done with mal Michael.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 7:22 am
by Big T
scoobydoo wrote:Johnno75 wrote:I don’t think the club would be prepared to lose him for nothing to North or WCE though. We can play hard ball to some degree but in the end will give a little to get something back.
They should. Set the precedent now. It should have been done with mal Michael.
Nah, Geelong are normally a good club to trade with and trading is all about relationships with certain clubs over a longer term. Its just business, be smart and get the best deal we can. The boy wants to go to Geelong. So be it.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 8:08 am
by RudeBoy
The problem is that all other clubs will know that Henry is unsettled and only wants to play for Geelong, so they may not be keen to trade for him. This potentially leaves Geelong as his only suitor. Hopefully a reasonable deal can be done with the Cats. We may not get his full worth, but we should get a decent draft pick and use it on a young player fully committed to playing for us.
Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2022 11:43 am
by The Black and White Lion
How about a slightly different take on things. What say Henry doesn’t make it too far at the cats in the next few years and decides he wants to come back to the pies and re-emerge under Fly. He’s got the talent but is lazy and doesn’t defend. Injury aside it might not work out. Geelong has traded out or delisted plenty of players over the years.
Given he wants out now, would you be prepared to take Oliver Henry back in a few years time?