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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:09 pm
by Breadcrawl
Pies4shaw wrote:His disposal efficiency is certainly improving. He had to cough it up three times in the last quarter to lose to the Cats but only once was enough at the end, tonight.
Disagree with your general view but couldn't help laughing out loud at that ;)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:23 pm
by Flashman
axl13 wrote:You must have watched a different game to most of us
Nah I watched the same game as you but with an open mind.

You should try it sometime instead of slaughtering a kid starting out who made some blues late but giving a free pass to some veterans who gave nothing for the bulk of the game. :roll:

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:26 pm
by axl13
Sorry mate just read your post again and I thought you were bagging him my mistake, I thought he was good today unlike Keefe, white, Blair etc

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:27 pm
by swoop42
AN_Inkling wrote:He was not alright today. Dumb selection for him to even play, but he's again failed to take his chance.
Rubbish.

He was far better than both Ball and Thomas.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:28 pm
by axl13
Throw in Blair in there as we'll mate

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:32 pm
by woftam
swoop42 wrote:
AN_Inkling wrote:He was not alright today. Dumb selection for him to even play, but he's again failed to take his chance.
Rubbish.

He was far better than both Ball and Thomas.
& Caff & Swan in my opinion.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:33 pm
by Wokko
BEST
Collingwood: Elliott, Pendlebury, Cloke, Adams, Dwyer, Lumumba

Named in the best, 30 touches, what the hell is wrong with you people? He's an inside midfielder so the possessions he gets are under pressure which is why he had SEVEN clearances, SEVEN tackles and FOUR inside 50s. He was great today but butchered it a bit late when he would've been out on his feet. It's like people watch the game without knowing anything about it at all.

His disposal efficiency was only 57%, but not that much worse than players who got a lot less of the ball. Blair was woeful, and I could understand people going nuts over his performance, but because he barely touched it you don't even notice. Blair had 29% disposal efficiency from 7 touches.

Seriously, if you're bagging Adams and blaming him for the loss then turn over to the soccer and **** off from following AFL because you have no damn clue.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:35 pm
by axl13
We'll said mate

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:42 pm
by Mugwump
Wokko wrote:BEST
Collingwood: Elliott, Pendlebury, Cloke, Adams, Dwyer, Lumumba

Named in the best, 30 touches, what the hell is wrong with you people? He's an inside midfielder so the possessions he gets are under pressure which is why he had SEVEN clearances, SEVEN tackles and FOUR inside 50s. He was great today but butchered it a bit late when he would've been out on his feet. It's like people watch the game without knowing anything about it at all.

His disposal efficiency was only 57%, but not that much worse than players who got a lot less of the ball. Blair was woeful, and I could understand people going nuts over his performance, but because he barely touched it you don't even notice. Blair had 29% disposal efficiency from 7 touches.

Seriously, if you're bagging Adams and blaming him for the loss then turn over to the soccer and **** off from following AFL because you have no damn clue.
Spirited defence, and I'm in sympathy with the point ; but there is no denying that his disposal, right now, is a major knock on his game. It seesm to be a composure thing. The good news is that this generally improves with games and the confidence and security they bring. Sinclair and Toovey have both had the same blowtorch, and both improved to be good players. Adams will get there eventually, though I can't see him as being in the best today.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:42 pm
by Flashman
axl13 wrote:Sorry mate just read your post again and I thought you were bagging him my mistake, I thought he was good today unlike Keefe, white, Blair etc
Sorry to you to mate.

I just read previously that you were judging him fairly and giving him his due as well.

We just got our wires crossed which is understandable with this site polluted with so many hysterics and whinging bitches. 8)

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:44 pm
by Flashman
Wokko wrote:BEST
Collingwood: Elliott, Pendlebury, Cloke, Adams, Dwyer, Lumumba

Named in the best, 30 touches, what the hell is wrong with you people? He's an inside midfielder so the possessions he gets are under pressure which is why he had SEVEN clearances, SEVEN tackles and FOUR inside 50s. He was great today but butchered it a bit late when he would've been out on his feet. It's like people watch the game without knowing anything about it at all.

His disposal efficiency was only 57%, but not that much worse than players who got a lot less of the ball. Blair was woeful, and I could understand people going nuts over his performance, but because he barely touched it you don't even notice. Blair had 29% disposal efficiency from 7 touches.

Seriously, if you're bagging Adams and blaming him for the loss then turn over to the soccer and **** off from following AFL because you have no damn clue.
In the presence of greatness. Top quality post mate.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:46 pm
by AN_Inkling
Wokko wrote: His disposal efficiency was only 57%, but not that much worse than players who got a lot less of the ball. Blair was woeful, and I could understand people going nuts over his performance, but because he barely touched it you don't even notice. Blair had 29% disposal efficiency from 7 touches.

Seriously, if you're bagging Adams and blaming him for the loss then turn over to the soccer and **** off from following AFL because you have no damn clue.
I'm not blaming Adams for the loss, though he did cost us a chance to win it.

But no, he was not great. He won the ball well, I will give him that. But his disposal by foot all game was awful, not just at the end, and no it's not because he was kicking under pressure either. His winning of the ball just rarely made much of a positive impact. His negative impact was greater than that of Ball and Thomas, but that may have just been balanced out by his clearances. In all, none had a good day.

Look, he'll probably be alright as a M.Boyd or Cross type but his decision making needs to improve as well as his execution.

I've probably been a bit harder on him than is fair, because he really did make some terrible mistakes in that last quarter, but no one can convince me that he had a good game.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:53 pm
by doriswilgus
Not impressed with him at all,but i think we're stuck with him,as the cupboard is pretty bare with quality young midfielders.

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:55 pm
by woftam
Wokko wrote:BEST
Collingwood: Elliott, Pendlebury, Cloke, Adams, Dwyer, Lumumba

Named in the best, 30 touches, what the hell is wrong with you people? He's an inside midfielder so the possessions he gets are under pressure which is why he had SEVEN clearances, SEVEN tackles and FOUR inside 50s. He was great today but butchered it a bit late when he would've been out on his feet. It's like people watch the game without knowing anything about it at all.

His disposal efficiency was only 57%, but not that much worse than players who got a lot less of the ball. Blair was woeful, and I could understand people going nuts over his performance, but because he barely touched it you don't even notice. Blair had 29% disposal efficiency from 7 touches.

Seriously, if you're bagging Adams and blaming him for the loss then turn over to the soccer and **** off from following AFL because you have no damn clue.
Well said Wokko

Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:03 pm
by gurugeoff
had a look at the replay. Yes, he butchers the ball a lot, but at least he gets it.

I think now I would rather be playing Adams than Ball.