The Hydra ~ Caro rears her head again

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joffa corfe wrote:
DaVe86 wrote:

Seriously, its pre-season. You cant read too far into our form. Our good players all played well in the VFL last week and disposed of the reigning premiers with ease. No need to worry at this stage.
Now Davo..

I loathe to do this because i love your passion when it comes to the mighty pies.
But the fact is mate we did not beat the reigning premiers last weekend we beat kids assembled from the Geelong and surrounding area in a scratch match that was nothing more than a good hit-out for some of our senior guys. :wink:

I agree with your comments about nothing to worry about, The 2008 premiers are going along nicely, Winning games in Feb dont win you games in September.
Carro as beautiful as she is nothing but a frustrated Bitchmond supporter who would love her club to one day be as good and superior as the mighty magpies :wink:
What would any season be without a spiteful attack from the fish stocking wearing carro ?
Geelong VFL side also won the Premiership
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DaVe86 wrote:1. We could not have foreseen that our players would get stomach bugs pre-season. That severely affected our preparation for the Dubai game.

2. Our strategy to do high-altitude training in the past has been very successful. We have made the finals 2 years running despite been backed not to even make the 8. So no need to criticise that decision.

3. Adelaide beat a full strength Fremantle without Goodwin or Edwardes even going close to the midfield...in fact Goodwin was mothballed at quarter time. Seems to me Collingwood struck a hot outfit very keen to make a statement pre-season.

Adelaide have been written off, but their early form is a clear indication of how good they are. They are playing close to full strength as well and easily disposed of our young outfit.

4. Collingwood has always played a young team in NAB cup...12 other teams have done the same this year. Only Hawthorn, Carlton, Adelaide and Fremantle have looked close to full strength, and even they are all resting players.


5. This was a simple and clever way to open the can of worms that Collingwood gets a good fixture. Yes we get a pretty good deal...but there was some very clever work done by Eddie and the board to ensure this. In the mean-time, interstate clubs are guarenteed home finals if they have earnt them instead of having to play MCG as a home game in the finals series.



Seriously, its pre-season. You cant read too far into our form. Our good players all played well in the VFL last week and disposed of the reigning premiers with ease. No need to worry at this stage.
1) correct.
2) correct.
3) correct.
4) correct.
5) correct.

5/5 Dave. Hope the Pies have the same good start to the season!

However, CW has some relevance regarding the Dubi game. It was basicly a game put on for our major sponser! A performance like that has done little for our marketability to E.A. If the RSA trip prior to the game was going too much for them, then they should have left it for another time such as end of season. But can't help gastro effecting the team. What had more effect is too hard to tell.

CW's dribble about all the games we have at the G is the same as last year. Do we need to hear it all over agian? She is just trying to break the deal the pies did for the benefit of themselves and Finals series fairness.

I'm not overly worried about our preseason form. Means nothing. Especially with the combinations of the teams we've put on the park. I'd worry more if I was the Hawks. Playing a near full strength and only stumbling over a very young Swans team and the Blues.

I'll worry if we lose the first few real matches! She should write something about Richmonds consistant poor performance. They have been Sh!t for so long now. I thought the point of bottoming out was to bounce back up? The Tiges have forgotton the second part! :)
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pies417 wrote:
joffa corfe wrote:
DaVe86 wrote:

Seriously, its pre-season. You cant read too far into our form. Our good players all played well in the VFL last week and disposed of the reigning premiers with ease. No need to worry at this stage.
Now Davo..

I loathe to do this because i love your passion when it comes to the mighty pies.
But the fact is mate we did not beat the reigning premiers last weekend we beat kids assembled from the Geelong and surrounding area in a scratch match that was nothing more than a good hit-out for some of our senior guys. :wink:

I agree with your comments about nothing to worry about, The 2008 premiers are going along nicely, Winning games in Feb dont win you games in September.
Carro as beautiful as she is nothing but a frustrated Bitchmond supporter who would love her club to one day be as good and superior as the mighty magpies :wink:
What would any season be without a spiteful attack from the fish stocking wearing carro ?


Geelong VFL side also won the Premiership
For those who were there, discovered that not one player from that side lined up last saturday..pretty sure the word going around is that they were kids assembled from the surrounding geelong metro country areas.
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Good on her. In some ways. An opinion's an opinion, although as a Richmond supporter it is understandable. It'll be (hopefully) her only chance to kick us while we're (not down) just drifting...
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As usual, her article comes down to her usual whinge about Collingwood playing X amount of games interstate.

*YAWN*

It's her same-old-tune, time and time again. Get over it Caro.
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joffa corfe wrote:
pies417 wrote:
joffa corfe wrote:
DaVe86 wrote:

Seriously, its pre-season. You cant read too far into our form. Our good players all played well in the VFL last week and disposed of the reigning premiers with ease. No need to worry at this stage.
Now Davo..

I loathe to do this because i love your passion when it comes to the mighty pies.
But the fact is mate we did not beat the reigning premiers last weekend we beat kids assembled from the Geelong and surrounding area in a scratch match that was nothing more than a good hit-out for some of our senior guys. :wink:

I agree with your comments about nothing to worry about, The 2008 premiers are going along nicely, Winning games in Feb dont win you games in September.
Carro as beautiful as she is nothing but a frustrated Bitchmond supporter who would love her club to one day be as good and superior as the mighty magpies :wink:
What would any season be without a spiteful attack from the fish stocking wearing carro ?


Geelong VFL side also won the Premiership
For those who were there, discovered that not one player from that side lined up last saturday..pretty sure the word going around is that they were kids assembled from the surrounding geelong metro country areas.
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Cannibal wrote:All-in-all, I think this article was fair comment. Too many people on this board seem to be so virulently anti-Caro, that they are not prepared to recognise the merits of any justified criticism.
not just anti-caro, anti-anyone who writes something that even remotely seems negative or writes an element of the truth [that might have negative connotations] towards collingwood but that's what you get for being one-eyed. :o
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Post by The Prototype »

Just on the topic of the column with the Dubai game and the Nab Cup in General I often wonder if some teams should just ask the AFL if they can be excused from playing, and not wasting the time and effort it takes to make up the Nab Cup fixture for teams that quite obviously don't give a damn about the games.

The teams that opt out can play in a Regional Challenge Series that they could give to the ABC to broadcast over the pre-season. Don't get me wrong I like seeing some of the younger guys play, but a lot of people don't seem to like the lack of seriousness.

Just an idea folks. ;)
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It's February...they have to sell papers somehow.
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Its not anti-caro....its more how anti-collingwood she is.

Seriously, if we sent a stronger list to Dubai and 1 or 2 got injured, we'd be so pissed off. It was obvious the boys had suffered some form of gastro and were a little flat after an intensive training regime. In the end, MM has a responsbility to do whats best for his footy club... We played a reasonably strong team anyway. Didak, Rocca, Lockyer, Maxwell, Pendleury, Swan, Thomas, Leon, Fraser, Wakelin, Medhurst all played and they were all part of the Prelim final team last year.

Yes I know the majority of them played half the game, the point is they played.


It was perhaps a bit arrogant to not send a stronger lineup to Albany...but at the end of the day a lot of players benefited more from playing in the VFL than in Perth.


Remember, the team has just spent months in a 3rd world country, where many got sick. Then they had to play football in a dust storm in Dubai in what were harsh conditions for footy. Is it beyond reason to think that some of our more senior players deserved some time at home?? Many players who have children may have benefited more by a bit of down-time than another cross-country trip.


In terms of poor performances...Richmond's effort against St.Kilda in round 1 should not go unnoticed. Without a backline, midfield or forward line, St.Kilda destroyed Richmond. Although Richmond did not let the game topple out of control, the damage was done and Richmond played terribly.

Now, you wouldve thought given a wooden spoon last year that a near full strength lineup would give a better display after months and months of preparation. However they were completely dismal. Atleast Collingwood was beaten by a sharpened and stronger Adelaide lineup. The Tigers were beaten by the Saints reserves. Surely in the interest of membership, a better pre-season performance from the Tigers would have been in the best interest.

Why would you buy a membership for Richmond after that performance. All the hope of pre-season was pretty much quashed in one NAB cup match. Atleast Collingwood supporters will stay true despite poor pre-season form.



Despite this post been slightly off topic in areas....it is just a point that very few teams have taken the comp serious, and it is quite unfair to single out Collingwood. Why dont you name Brisbane, Pt.Adelaide, Sydney, Melbourne and West Coast as well who fielded teams of unknown's. Those without sin shall cast the first stone.

Who could blame clubs for not taking the NAB serious. The rules are different to the real seasons rules and coaches do not have the ability to try certain strategies. Atleast the regional matches are played with normal AFL rules with normal interchange policies.

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Post by STOKA35 »

I wonder if she looked at our interstate record last season not bad was it. Maybe ed is selling us on home and away game form not pre-season hit or miss games. Caro research before you write
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Gee... Caro is similar to another who constantly attacks collingwood...hmmmmm

could be one and the same person. yeahhhh
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