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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 8:46 pm
by Dale61
Those headlights wouldn't be on Jim Richards' car, by any chance?

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:01 pm
by The Prototype
Daks wrote:Geez. You guys are nice. :roll:. Sure Willo might not be the best player on our list, but he still wears the black and white so he deserves our respect. We can't go around hating our own players. Do we really wanna be like Essendon fans constantly bagging one of their own? NO. Willo has had one bad year, that's it after showing alot of primise last year. If the guy is retained, don't create an uproar - wait and see how he performs next year. He'll come good.
Sadly, I don't think he will improve at Collingwood.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 9:13 pm
by pedro
G'day everyone. Newbie here :)

Sadly for Andrew Williams, the time has come. With the small list sizes these days, we already have too many players with huge doubts over them. Most are young. Williams is not and I can't see where the improvement will come from. Should be a no-brainer!

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Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2004 11:44 pm
by Daniel
labrooy....

mate I'm going to have so much fun rubbing your nose in it when Willo gets delisted, which is sometime b 4 the november draft.... just wait.... :twisted:

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:33 am
by Johnson#26
We need the list space, and you only delist expendable players. Williams is one. Daks, we give him respect but if we are to move forward, he must go. Will he ever get any better? I doubt it, although MM may see something after the two goals against Carlton.

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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:16 am
by labrooy
Daniel wrote:labrooy....

mate I'm going to have so much fun rubbing your nose in it when Willo gets delisted, which is sometime b 4 the november draft.... just wait.... :twisted:
Feel free Daniel... just for the record I am extremely disappointed with Williams and would not be too upset if he is delisted. Just commenting on your debating style.

BTW, I take it I can rub your nose in it if he stays on the list... :wink:

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 9:12 am
by MarkT
5 players must be delisted very soon in order for us to draft. We have swapped Nixon who would have to have been under consideration for delisting for Morrison. Kinnear has retired and we have taken Travis under the f/s rule. So for it status quo for list numbers. Now we have to make room for picks 10, 23, 55, 71 and for Nick Maxwell to come onto the list. That is 5 not even allowing for using the PSD pick 4. We might pass on 71. We need 5 or 6 spots though. McKee and Williams should be first in line to go. We have to decide who can win us a premiership. We know McKee and Williams can't. The hard decisions will be on the other delistings. O'Bree, Shak, Swan, R. Shaw, McGough, King, Lokan and one or two others are the candidates. The bottom line is some have to go and Williams has to be one of the first to be chosen.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:14 pm
by Magpie_Dan
Both of them players in Jonson#26's avatar should be still on our list! Need I say more but welcome to the Pies Chad! It's been a long time coming! As for Williams, good player lot of potential but just is not consistent enough!

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:23 pm
by Johnson#26
Dan, that is the best way to put it. Good player, lots of potential, no consistancy. Maybe one of us could pop over to the BigFooty West Coast board to get their opinions on Willo.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:51 pm
by MarkT

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:59 pm
by Cakewalk
Johnson#26 wrote:Dan, that is the best way to put it. Good player, lots of potential, no consistancy. Maybe one of us could pop over to the BigFooty West Coast board to get their opinions on Willo.
Why would you bother?
He's clearly an absolute dud.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:18 pm
by Dale61
Johnson#26 wrote:Dan, that is the best way to put it. Good player, lots of potential, no consistancy. Maybe one of us could pop over to the BigFooty West Coast board to get their opinions on Willo.
And if either of you do, please keep them to yourself and don't waste our time by posting them here.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:32 am
by Johnson#26
How long can we afford to keep players listed that have the talent but not the consistancy? I would say you'd have to persist with them, as when they finally turn it on you reap the benifits. Williams is one of those players.

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:49 am
by Johnson#26
Almost a year on, and we are still at the same conclusion.

Posted: Sat Apr 23, 2005 9:52 am
by MagpieGrant
Except now he is festering at Collingwood instead of Williamstown :roll: