The "What do we get for Beams?" thread
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themonk
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A sad day indeed, for the first time in a long time I feel that we are no longer a powerful club.swoop42 wrote:The club needs to be upfront now on why Beams isn't being shopped to GWS or the Gold Coast.
The supporters are getting angry at this proposed deal and the fact a player 4 years older than Beams in Griffen will most likely see the bulldogs achieve a deal we should be getting for Beams ain't helping the matter.
Not good enough communication to your members Collingwood.
P.S-Lumumba should be traded to North in a direct swap for Greenwood if both parties agree.
No need to involve Melbourne at all then.
If we want Varcoe then offer pick 30/48 and nothing more.
We should be looking to retain pick 25 if this proposed deal goes ahead.
Only the best for Collingwood was Eddies war cry, more like near enough is good enough these days.
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Lazza
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The mods have transformed me dudeleonmagic wrote:don't start sounding like a "perceptive fellow" laz
It pays to be one... 
The "perceptive fellow" don't have a yellow box in their posts but I have so there you go........
Therefore that clearly says that supporting the club through thick and thin doesn't get you much credit here on Nick's. 
In reality, it would be bloody crazy as a loyal Collingwood fan to agree with a shit deal that's well and truly unders IMO but hey, I guess the club knows much better than we do........
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Deja Vu
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Correct.
That's the feeling I have had for a couple of years. Buttifant moves on, so we give the job to some guy from the Saints.
Walsh moves on so we give it to Rocket because he was the next in line.
Now Beams is moving on and we are happy to accept fodder from the Lions. There used to be some serious aggression when it came to appointments - we would headhunt and target until we got our man.
Seems like the club have been happy to be picked off the last few years. Why aren't we targeting successful personnel from other clubs?
That's the feeling I have had for a couple of years. Buttifant moves on, so we give the job to some guy from the Saints.
Walsh moves on so we give it to Rocket because he was the next in line.
Now Beams is moving on and we are happy to accept fodder from the Lions. There used to be some serious aggression when it came to appointments - we would headhunt and target until we got our man.
Seems like the club have been happy to be picked off the last few years. Why aren't we targeting successful personnel from other clubs?
To be honest right now I can't tell whether this proposed deal and the other for Varcoe is being done for the best interests of the club or more for the best interests of a coach and administration who'll be under enormous pressure in 2015 to improve.
Go backwards again next season careers are on the line and heads will likely roll.
Right now it has a smell of desperation about it and unless we have an ace up our sleeve with what we can obtain in any trades involving pick 5 it might keep on smelling that way.
Go backwards again next season careers are on the line and heads will likely roll.
Right now it has a smell of desperation about it and unless we have an ace up our sleeve with what we can obtain in any trades involving pick 5 it might keep on smelling that way.
He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD!
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Lazza
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I agree RB but as you said, without info from the club, we can only speculate on rumours and half truths that we hear.........RudeBoy wrote:I'm not overly pleased with these deals either, but I think it's wrong to expect a running commentary on possible deals from our club until the deals have been made. Then the club will need to explain the rationale behind what, on face value, look like bad deals. I know one thing for sure, if we end up de-listing this Crisp kid in a couple of years, then heads must roll.swoop42 wrote:The club needs to be upfront now on why Beams isn't being shopped to GWS or the Gold Coast.
The supporters are getting angry at this proposed deal and the fact a player 4 years older than Beams in Griffen will most likely see the bulldogs achieve a deal we should be getting for Beams ain't helping the matter.
Not good enough communication to your members Collingwood.
P.S-Lumumba should be traded to North in a direct swap for Greenwood if both parties agree.
No need to involve Melbourne at all then.
If we want Varcoe then offer pick 30/48 and nothing more.
We should be looking to retain pick 25 if this proposed deal goes ahead.
I'm a very logical person and us getting a player who cant get a regular game for the Brion's doesn't make rational sense RB. I also can't believe we don't have other viable options available. I hope I'm very wrong.
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Lazza
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It HAS to be a trade because we can work out roughly which 2-3 players we can claim at pick 5.swoop42 wrote:Right now it has a smell of desperation about it and unless we have an ace up our sleeve with what we can obtain in any trades involving pick 5 it might keep on smelling that way.
Pick 5 and Lumumba for Boyd????
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WarrenerraW
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Seems like we're the ones getting shafted here instead of shoving it up briscum. I thought we weren't dealing with them because they failed to meet the 5pm deadline last week? That was the plan wasn't it? Now all of a sudden it's game on and we're talking to them instead of doing everything within our power to get boyd who wants out of gws. I know he nominated the dogs but we would be a better option for him surely.
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Lazza
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Lazza
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THIS^^^^^^WarrenerraW wrote:Seems like we're the ones getting shafted here instead of shoving it up briscum. I thought we weren't dealing with them because they failed to meet the 5pm deadline last week? That was the plan wasn't it? Now all of a sudden it's game on and we're talking to them instead of doing everything within our power to get boyd who wants out of gws. I know he nominated the dogs but we would be a better option for him surely.
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jdpie1970
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Have i missed a statement from the club that their position from Friday has changed ? Have not been on line or near the radio.WarrenerraW wrote:Seems like we're the ones getting shafted here instead of shoving it up briscum. I thought we weren't dealing with them because they failed to meet the 5pm deadline last week? That was the plan wasn't it? Now all of a sudden it's game on and we're talking to them instead of doing everything within our power to get boyd who wants out of gws. I know he nominated the dogs but we would be a better option for him surely.
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Lazza
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"Rumour" has it that its Beams for picks 5 and 25 and player Crisp. Most here hoping that it is NOT the case..jdpie1970 wrote:Have i missed a statement from the club that their position from Friday has changed ? Have not been on line or near the radio.WarrenerraW wrote:Seems like we're the ones getting shafted here instead of shoving it up briscum. I thought we weren't dealing with them because they failed to meet the 5pm deadline last week? That was the plan wasn't it? Now all of a sudden it's game on and we're talking to them instead of doing everything within our power to get boyd who wants out of gws. I know he nominated the dogs but we would be a better option for him surely.