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LaurieHolden wrote:Gee there was some good and hard footy played in that game. Some massive contests and big game moments. Played like a final.
Great prep for a few months down the track.

Respect to Adelaide, they had a real dip. Have some absolute class emerging.
O'Brien was more more touch away from kicking a match winning goal.
Tex, well I'd love him at the Pies. A big man doing big man things.
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Good call, L H. That was finals like. Even Mathew Nicks said that was their best shot and they’re gutted to have fallen short. We owned most of the game on the scoreboard at least. Kept them to two goals till half time. Went to sleep in the third quarter and then when it really mattered, we came back from 2 goals down half way through the last. You learn more about players in tough games than you do when you’re well on top. This is all part of the learning curve towards being better when it matters most and that’s still two more months away. I thought it was a good win considering the Crows best is pretty good. And as for Walker, he’s probably the best outside 50 kick on goal in the comp. He put on a clinic today.
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Piesnchess wrote:High time both Bianco an Carmichael came in, freshen us up a bit now.
Good VFL players. Not up to AFL standard. Too small for a start.
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Haff wrote:**** sake. Watching delayed and accidentally saw the final score. Should I bother watching the second half?
Skip the third quarter, it will give you stomach ulcers mate.
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Piesnchess wrote:
Gerry Cooper wrote:
Piesnchess wrote:According to Fly, JDG has been training the house down, trying to atone. I hope he watched that second half with his heart in his mouth, like all of us, realising hes a massive loss to the side. I do think he will come back better than ever, hes learnt a hard lesson.
Ginnivan needs to take a leaf out of JDG's book. Until he learns some discipline on and off the field he can live in the seconds.


I must have missed something, what exactly has Ginni done now, to discredit himself, hes been on good behaviour has he not ? :o
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shawthing wrote:
Piesnchess wrote:High time both Bianco an Carmichael came in, freshen us up a bit now.
Good VFL players. Not up to AFL standard. Too small for a start.
Carmichael is 190 cm
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Great win Pies! Gritty. Never say die. Win as only GREAT teams do.
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Another amazing turnout by our supporters.

Top 10 (Collingwood vs Non-Vic H&A crowds in Melbourne)

[*] Rd 8 2023 = Collingwood vs Sydney (71,463)
[*] Rd 15 2023 = Collingwood vs Adelaide (65,930)[/b]
[*] Rd 9 2013 = Collingwood vs Sydney (65,306)
[*] Rd 21 2007 = Collingwood vs Sydney (63,842)
[*] Rd 13 2012 = Collingwood vs West Coast (62,957)
[*] Rd 19 2003 = Collingwood vs Brisbane Lions (61,868)
[*] Rd 3 2019 = Collingwood vs West Coast (60,878)
[*] Rd 2 2023 = Collingwood vs Port Adelaide (60,744)
[*] Rd 7 1998 = Collingwood vs Sydney (57,894)
[*] Rd 10 2006 = Collingwood vs Brisbane Lions (54,820)
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Monco Matt wrote:Now, I know that Winter is not the time to be playing your best but I would just like to see us take a 27 point half-time lead on the MCG against an interstate team sitting in 8th and turn it into a decent win. Not occasionally but all season long. Make the MCG our fortress.
I know we haven't won by big margins often enough, but I'd argue the MCG has been fortress for us since Fly became our coach.

Our record is 21 wins, 4 losses (84.0% winning record).
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In the third the Crows played like a more muscular version of us. They are coming.
Get back on top.
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Again, that's a better win that people recognise. As I keep reminding everyone, we're still three gun players short (another gun mid, a CHB and a CHF), while a number of senior players are waning, including Pendles, and a number of young players are still maturing into the game (such as McCreery). We lose focus because too much falls on too few shoulders to play our style for 120 minutes, so we go in runs and try to limit the opposition in between.

Our biggest mistake against Melbourne, which was not moving Nicky into the middle earlier, was rectified. Mitchell and Nick almost dragged us over the line last time; this time they succeeded, but with more help after the team was able to rest during the bye.

But to see Nick in the middle, Cameron returning to form, Howey and Jamie returning, Joshy playing to his ability now he's rested, Q maintaining the new standards he's set, Coxy impacting the key moment, and the team refusing to concede, is enough for now.

Naturally, sides are also setting up better against us, and many of those sides have a better overall list, particularly when you consider three of our guns have age on them (Pendles, Sidey and Jamie). Given our thin list, losing JDG and Sidey is significant, with Lipinski still building and Pendles needing a break. That means we're well down on running power. Meanwhile, our coaches will be learning counter-tactics, which is a natural progression for them, too, and something better done now in advance of finals.

And yet, we got over the line. The talent will come our way if we keep playing this kind of football, even if luck will have a big say on where we end up this year.
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Another come from behind, nerve racking, heroic win for Collingwood. After looking comfortable at half time the Crows were way to powerful in the center clearances and dominated up forward. Some heroic efforts got Collingwood back into the game and some questions remain on how the team will perform this September;
1. Mason Cox - His two goals in the last quarter won the game for us. He remains a potent weapon when he can clunk a few marks in the forward 50, and rarely looses a rucking contest.
2. Will Hoshin-Elliot - remains the whipping boy for a lot of Collingwood supporters, but he still has raw football talent that wins games for Collingwood and I hope he remains in form and free of any injury for the remainder of this year. He does a ton of gut running to be involved at both ends of the ground.
3. Daicos x 2 - both of Peter's boys did really well today.
4. John Noble - his desperation at vital times in the 4th Quarter helped save the game today.
5. Oleg Markov - showed some strong one-on-one defensive abilities today.
6. Issac Quaynor - having a very good season and was one of our most reliable defenders today. Is becoming a better version of Braydon Maynard.
7. Harvey Harrison - This kid is showing some very good signs that could have him develop into a very good player. The kick to Crisp in the 3rd Quarter after taking the handball from Josh Daicos running down the members wing was fantastic , his contested mark in the 2nd Quarter, a smart roving goal and his general field kicking have him holding his spot and getting as many games into him as we can.

Cause of concern;
1. Pat Lipinski - did a few nice things and I believe Fly when he says Pat is our best runner and "a good deliverer to inside 50", however he seems weak as water in one on one contests. Perhaps there is still some concern on the structural integrity of his shoulder?
2. Darcy Moore playing on the opposition's best tall forward? A couple of times I noticed Moore being annoyed that Tex Walker got off the leash against Nathan Murphy. Surely it was Moore's job to stick with Walker?
3. Kicking for goal - Adelaide let us off the hook a lot with bad kicking for goal but gee wizz Darcy Cameron and Jack Crisp misses from ~ 20 meters in the 3rd Quarter really hurt.
4. Ash Johnson - really out of form and looks to be lacking fitness to run out games. I'd prefer to see Josh Carmichael in the team next week assuming McStay is still a couple of weeks away. If Johnson is carrying an injury let him rest up next week and play himself back into form with a couple of weeks in the VFL
5. Is it just me seeing Scott Pendlebury getting slower?

I'd be keen to see some changes for the team next week to rest up Pendlebury and maybe Maynard if he is sore after the collision he had late in the 4th Quarter.
That would be a good opportunity to give Finn McCrae a chance to play AFL and perhaps Jacob Ryan make his debut.

In: Frampton, McCrae, McCreery, Ryan (Sub)
Out: Johnston (omit), Pendlebury (Managed), Maynard (Managed),
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I’m a bit confused by the negative comments in this thread. We are 11 - 2 ffs. We can’t win every game by 5 goals
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I term the current Collingwood attack based strategy “Unceasing Waves” like on a stormy and windy day with rough seas. A Perfect Storm ☔️
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The Melbourne Cricket Ground played host to a pulsating, tense and fluctuating contest between Collingwood and Adelaide, where the Magpies held on by 2 points. The first term was a quarter of two halves where Adelaide had all the play but did not convert, before the Woods hit back to take a slender lead of 5 points at the first change. Despite leading by 34 points during time-on in the second term, and eventually leading by 27 points at half time, the third quarter saw the Crows blitz the Pies on the scoreboard with 7 unanswered goals during the quarter, which saw Adelaide lead by 13 points at three quarter time. Collingwood hit back hard in trademark fashion to come from behind once again and pull off another miraculous victory by 2 points in a cliffhanger against the resurgent Crows, who have been gallant in defeat against Collingwood recently. The last four matches that Collingwood have won against Adelaide have been by an aggregate margin of 13 points, and have not lost to the Crows since 2016.

Collingwood won their statistical categories from sources such as disposals by +3 (369 - 366), kicks were won by +6 (215 - 209), uncontested possessions were up by +10 (227 - 217), while hit-outs were won by +5 (40 - 35), clearances had a margin of +5 (41 - 36), and stoppage clearances had a differential of +8 (31 - 23) and Tackles Inside 50 had a gap of +1 ( 9 - 8 ). Adelaide won their key indicators through handballs by +3 (157 - 154), contested possessions were won by +3 (137 - 134), intercept possessions had a margin of +6 (68 - 62), turnovers were -8 (61 - 69) and centre clearances had an advantage of +3 (13 - 10). Tackles were up by +6 (70 - 64), while intercept marks were claimed by +6 (68 - 62), Marks Inside 50 went Adelaide's way by +6 (16 - 10), and +8 for Inside 50s (57 - 49). Both sides were split in marks (87 each), uncontested marks (76 apiece), and contested marks (all square at 11).

Nick Daicos (37 disposals @ 73%, 375 metres gained, 14 contested possessions, 23 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 24 handballs, 2 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 9 score involvements, 8 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 6 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) was predominantly in the midfield for the entire game, and was highly prolific with his handpasses linking up transition and scoring chains, while his clearance work was very good. Nick's hunger to win the contested ball and tackling, combined with composed foot skills were also notable features.

Josh Daicos (33 disposals @ 82%, 604 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 25 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 18 kicks, 15 handballs, 6 handballs, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 6 clearances, 6 stoppage clearances, 6 Inside 50s, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal)returned to his best after the bye and was chiefly responsible for igniting Collingwood into action with the team's opening goal, while remaining proactive around stoppages which gave his team territory and opportunities to score up forward. Josh was the conduit between the arcs on the wing that would work his way towards the half-back flank to take marks and maintain possession. Josh was also prominent across half-forward with his ball-winning ability having an influence on the outcome of the contest.

Tom Mitchell (27 disposals @ 56%, 302 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 11 kicks, 16 handballs, 5 marks, 7 tackles, 6 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 5 Inside 50s & 1 goal) played his role well by winning his own ball beneath packs, kicked long to a contest when there was nothing on, and contributed to ball movement that resulted in scoring shots.

Scott Pendlebury (24 disposals @ 62%, 493 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 15 kicks, 9 handballs, 3 tackles, 5 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 centre clearances & 7 Inside 50s) accumulated possessions and produced territory, but skill errors let him down, especially when he was under pressure.

Darcy Cameron (19 disposals @ 63%, 170 metres gained, 29 hit-outs, 10 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 10 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 5 score involvements, 6 clearances, 2 centre clearances & 4 stoppage clearances) provided adequate service to his teammates at stoppages around the ground, won his own ball in the middle to clear congestion, and contributed on both sides of the contest by winning the contested ball, while finding space and separation on the outside to keep the ball moving.

Jack Crisp (14 disposals @ 71%, 356 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 7 handballs, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 6 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances & 2 Rebound 50s) produced and provided plenty of territory, and stayed active and busy in scoring chains.

Brayden Maynard (27 disposals @ 59%, 481 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 10 intercept possessions, 20 kicks, 7 handballs, 6 marks, 2 score involvements & 7 Rebound 50s) won a lot of possessions, but had his effectiveness blunted when Adelaide set up for his long kicks that would go to a contest, and none of Maynard's teammates were able to mark it or bring the ball to ground for Collingwood's running game to emerge from congestion.

Jeremy Howe (20 disposals @ 80%, 478 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 16 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 6 handballs, 8 marks, 2 score involvements & 9 Rebound 50s) made an impressionable return to AFL football where his ball use was accurate, while having confidence to go for his marks which he took with aplomb, and gave stabilised and controlled territory further afield from the last line of defence when cool heads were required.

Isaac Quaynor (15 disposals @ 87%, 375 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 3 handballs, 8 marks, 5 tackles, 3 score involvements & 6 Rebound 50s) had a highly composed game amongst all of the chaos around him. Quaynor held his nerve to take crucial marks at the right time, while allowing teammates to complete marks from most of his kicks to maintain possession.

Darcy Moore (15 disposals @ 87%, 328 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 2 handballs, 7 marks, 5 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) showed poise with his ball use, while completing his marks safely and securely.

John Noble (14 disposals @ 86%, 283 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 12 kicks, 2 handballs, 4 marks, 5 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) kept his ball use very simple, while Noble was able to nail his tackles, especially his final play on the Shane Warne Stand wing, where he slowed Adelaide down with that tackle that brought his team more time and numbers to defend the lead.

Oleg Markov (11 disposals @ 91%, 115 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 7 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks, 3 tackles, 2 score involvements & 3 Rebound 50s) played very well by taking marks at the right time and disposed of the footy effectively.

Nathan Murphy (7 disposals @ 86%, 3 contested possessions, 4 uncontested possessions, 6 intercept possessions, 5 kicks, 2 handballs, 5 marks, 2 score involvements & 3 Rebound 50s) backed in his supreme and fearless approach in marking contests where he either outmarked his opponent or halved marking contests where he would spoil the ball out of bounds or down to ground level and rely on his teammates to gather the footy.

Taylor Adams (20 disposals @ 75%, 276 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 marks, 5 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 6 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) got involved as a high half-forward that was able to win the ball in general play, while putting significant pressure on with numerous tackles executed to keep the ball in the front half, while Adams was able to maintain the team's hot streak in the second term with a set shot he was able to kick truly, despite the review.

Pat Lipinski (20 disposals @ 55%, 370 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 9 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements & 5 Inside 50s) accumulated possessions up forward, but was not able to be highly effective under the heat and pressure the Crows were offering.

Will Hoskin-Elliott (11 disposals @ 54%, 194 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 4 score involvements, 3 clearances, 3 stoppage clearances, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) played a pivotal role in the last quarter where he snapped Collingwood's last goal on his left foot (non-preferred foot), and got the Magpies out of initial danger with a rebounding kick that reached the wing from the back pocket. Two key moments that contributed towards team success, of which they did.

Mason Cox (10 disposals @ 80%, 150 metres gained, 11 hit-outs, 9 contested possessions, 5 kicks, 5 handballs, 2 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 2 clearances, 3 Inside 50s & 2 goals) burst to life in the final term with two telling goals that gave his team impetus in their belief to come from behind and win against all odds.

Jamie Elliott (10 disposals @ 60%, 5 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 2 handballs, 5 marks, 4 Marks Inside 50, 4 tackles, 4 Tackles Inside 50, 5 score involvements & 2 goals) turned it on in the second term with two goals, while he provided a marking option and applied numerous tackles.

Harvey Harrison (9 disposals @ 67%, 200 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 5 kicks, 4 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) kicked the all-important first goal of the final term to start Collingwood's resurgence, while Harrison was able to lay tackles and give his teammates opportunities up forward to score goals.

Bobby Hill (9 disposals @ 67%, 156 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 3 handballs, 2 tackles, 2 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) showed his trademark speed back towards goal, and followed up the spillage off Ash Johnson's hands to rove and snap a well-desrved goal.

Collingwood's next game will be against Gold Coast on July 1 at Heritage Bank Stadium. The aim for Collingwood is to put four quarters together and be ruthless for the entire game. Achieve this, and the Magpies will burn the Suns as the sun sets below the sky and horizon on the Gold Coast.
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