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think positive
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yeah nah, only drunk or when no one else is around, but i wish! i always thought guys did it to give their tackle room to breathe!! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Location: The 18
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I don't think men will be complaining if this catches on.
The possible rise in back injuries is a concern though. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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Pi
Joined: 13 Feb 2006 Location: SA
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David
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Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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As is already the case at your local swimming pool. You do get that there’s a difference between a transgender girl – with all the paperwork, therapeutic work and experience of living as a girl that entails – and someone waking up one morning and deciding to be female for fifteen minutes, right?
This is an insidious scare campaign that reflects far more on the prurience (and perhaps, in some cases, sexual fantasies) of those who raise it than anything that actually happens when transgender people use a bathroom or changeroom. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Pi
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David
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^ Again, not something that people would do lightly. And we're mostly talking about children here anyway (I'm not sure what the involvement of 18-25 year olds is in the Girl Guides, but I'm guessing they're mostly staff?). This focus on showers and toilets – with all the media and public fantasies about male-born trans girls being little more than characters from Porky's; or about there being an army of horny young men waiting in line to spend their days filling out forms and dressing/presenting as women, with all the associated stigma, just to be able to shower with girls – really trivialises the experience of being transgender and the challenges that entails, I think. And yes, I think there's a bit of Freudian projection going on there, too.
Please note that I haven't, actually, screamed 'transphobia' at you. I just think you're greatly overblowing the likelihood of harm and not focusing on why policies like these are actually important and beneficial. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Pi
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Wokko
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Bruce Gonsalves
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Geoffrey Rush today, whose next?........... Benny Hill? |
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David
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This musical number, from the US show Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, which I’ve never seen – pretty edgy, particularly in the current climate!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu3FE7BswYI _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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think positive
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hehe, want the shoes!!!
the last line is a bit hmm these days but yeah, i can relate!! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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K
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This:
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Every time I fear that your brain has been captured by a speak-your-weight Leftist orthodoxy dispenser, you come out with something reasoned and open-minded, like this.
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Perhaps the definition of a backhanded compliment. |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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What does "this" refer to? |
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David
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gotta pay that (I don’t think I will ever feel comfortable with – nor be accepted by the proponents of – any such orthodoxy, though). _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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David wrote: | gotta pay that (I don’t think I will ever feel comfortable with – nor be accepted by the proponents of – any such orthodoxy, though). |
Yeah, pay it too. I think David knows that I rate his intellect very highly, and that I thought it was probably a more curious and open-minded instrument when he was about 18, rather than the crusty old age he is now... There are people whose opinions on virtually any issue can be reliably predicted once you know their opinion on any one issue. I don't think he's anywhere near that stage of terminal decline yet, fortunately ! _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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