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Bruce Gonsalves
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Pies4shaw wrote: | stui magpie wrote: | I think I'm getting old.
Spent a few hours today clambering on roofs (the house and the shed) cleaning gutters. It's a lot higher and more slippery than it used to be, or I'm just getting old. |
Grow a pair. My Dad still does this and he's 95. In fact, he's so good at it, he does mine, too (and it's three-storeys high). He does use the abseiling equipment, which may make it easier. |
To put things in perspective, as a self employed tradie approaching mid fifties, I have refused to climb ladders to make a living for ages. Far too many examples of us coming a cropper. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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There's apparently some research supporting that, men over 50 shouldn't be climbing ladders, let alone stumbling round on roofs.
1 more time for me, I've got 1 side of the shed to go (14m) and after that, I'll pay some one. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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stui magpie wrote: | ^
There's apparently some research supporting that, men over 50 shouldn't be climbing ladders, let alone stumbling round on roofs.
1 more time for me, I've got 1 side of the shed to go (14m) and after that, I'll pay some one. |
you can get a tool thingy on a whatsmacallit that connects to the hose, do it from the ground, you can also get your son to do it!
my hubby had me hoist him on a forklift to fix a camera, it freaked me out, i put the forks down and said nope get something to stand on! he got a flat top pallet! Its not just i cant stand heights i dont want to see anyone else up there either! Ive been on single storey roofs, to help fix tiles, antennas, and an a/c, never again! except i just remembered ill have to do the sisalation soon! when we did this house it was blowing half a gale! man that was a long day! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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stui magpie
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Looking to buy a ute, the good car is getting messed up so a ute would be perfect to head up bush and do the bunnings runs in. Found a beauty online for $3500. Organised to go round this morning and take it for a spin.
Bloke messaged me last night, he's changed his mind and not selling.
Bugger. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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K
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That's a shame, Stui, but I guess better than buying it and later finding out from police it's stolen with fake papers. |
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stui magpie
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I'd already run a check on the rego and Vin, registered, not stolen, not on finance and not written off. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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watt price tully
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stui magpie wrote: | ^
There's apparently some research supporting that, men over 50 shouldn't be climbing ladders, let alone stumbling round on roofs.
1 more time for me, I've got 1 side of the shed to go (14m) and after that, I'll pay some one. |
Emergency Departments have quite a few on a regular basis. Older Greek men on ladders, fall then come to ED.
My father who died a few years ago at 93. When was in his 80's he lived next door (we had the side fence removed) was on top of ladder on top of his garage roof with a handsaw cutting branches off a tree. Mrs WPT said to ask me to do it ( I was at work) & he said yeah that's a good idea. A short time later he'd fallen. Lucky for him, the pergola helped break his fall. Off to the Alfred then rehab. He was better but felt numb down one of his legs stopped hm walking 8 km's per day but managed 4km's thereafter. (He also did 1 hour of resistance excercises daily.) _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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Good on him, the exercise not the fall, I hope I keep that up, makes such a difference to quality of life _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Wokko
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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^ interesting - I presume Lasry (the original judge whose 20 year minimum sentence has been overturned on appeal) is the same Judge who gave Robert Farquarson a minimum term of 33 years.
The courts,I suppose, have to embrace a psychiatric consensus which holds that people who are perfectly morally conscious can be only partly responsible for their actions. This was most grotesquely shown in the Anu Singh case (searingly documented by Helen Garner in Her book, Joe Cinques Consolation), but it seems to be at work here as well. Judges are not trained psychiatrists. And trained psychiatrists are not very far above medieval plague doctors. So now, 14 years will serve to express how we value the lives of three little children, deliberately and agonisingly drowned.
If her story is true, then she has suffered much in life : more than most of us will ever understand. And it is hard to feel that any mother would do what she has done without some deep fracture in her poor soul. But I cannot see how we can allow that to be an excuse, as it seems to be here. Its one of those moments where one wishes there was a God, who might know what justice looks like, in such a case. _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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14 years wont pay for the lives of three children, but neither would 22, however, is jail where she should be? I cant possibly ever understand how a mother kills one of her children, let alone three, attempting four, and I thank God for that. No winners here, none at all. _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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I think there's a real problem with the way the justice system responds to defendants' personal histories. This may surprise some given my views on sentencing (i.e. I would like to see us work towards abolishing custodial sentencing altogether), but I generally don't believe that judges should reduce sentences out of sympathy for people with troubled backgrounds, and think the idea of some people 'deserving' lesser sentences because of what they've had to go through in life really problematic. All that should be taken into account is how those factors affect the degree of culpability and the prospects of rehabilitation. So I think the judge's comments in this case are unfortunate.
Otherwise, this is a tricky one because, one presumes, she like these fathers who kill their children will likely already be suffering in a way that no prison sentence could ever cause. I think it's fair to presume that she will not commit such a crime ever again. Beyond that, the difference between 18 vs 26 years seems kind of abstract;she will still spend a considerable proportion of the rest of her life behind bars. Isn't that a sufficient punishment? I'm not sure there's much to be outraged by here. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
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David wrote: | I think there's a real problem with the way the justice system responds to defendants' personal histories. This may surprise some given my views on sentencing (i.e. I would like to see us work towards abolishing custodial sentencing altogether), but I generally don't believe that judges should reduce sentences out of sympathy for people with troubled backgrounds, and think the idea of some people 'deserving' lesser sentences because of what they've had to go through in life really problematic. All that should be taken into account is how those factors affect the degree of culpability and the prospects of rehabilitation. So I think the judge's comments in this case are unfortunate.
Otherwise, this is a tricky one because, one presumes, she like these fathers who kill their children will likely already be suffering in a way that no prison sentence could ever cause. I think it's fair to presume that she will not commit such a crime ever again. Beyond that, the difference between 18 vs 26 years seems kind of abstract;she will still spend a considerable proportion of the rest of her life behind bars. Isn't that a sufficient punishment? I'm not sure there's much to be outraged by here. |
What do you mean... 'Like these fathers who kill their children' ??
When children (younger than 15) are killed in Australia, they are most likely to be killed by a family member (66.9 per cent), primarily a parent (94.2 per cent)," AIC research analyst Jenny Mouzos says in her report 'Homicidal Encounters.' Although fathers are responsible for most cases of filicide these numbers are inflated by the number of non-biological fathers who kill children.
When Mouzos crunched figures on the distribution of parents who killed children by gender and biological ties, she found biological mothers posed a more lethal risk to their own. Biological mothers account for about 35 per cent of all filicides (about the same proportion as stepfathers and de factos), while biological fathers account for 29 per cent
And.... on abuse of children....
The Western Australian figures shed light on who is likely to abuse children in families and are in line with overseas findings. The data show there were 1505 substantiations of child abuse in WA during the period 2007-8. Natural parents were responsible for 37% of total cases. Of these, mothers are identified as the perpetrator of neglect and abuse in a total of 73% of verified cases.
http://australianmensrights.com/Domestic_Violence_Statistics-Child_Abuse_Australia/Women_who_murder_their_Children-Australian_Statistics.aspx _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
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I don't understand why you had to include... like fathers.
What has that got to do with this womans sentence being reduced? _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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