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Champions League Final 2018: Real Madrid v Liverpool

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Who wins?
Real Madrid
66%
 66%  [ 2 ]
Liverpool
33%
 33%  [ 1 ]
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Pies4shaw 



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:44 pm
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Ajax should win. Van Reenen, Michels, Cruyff, Neeskens, Rep, Kieft, van Basten, Bergkamp, Litmanen, Kluivert, Ibrahimovic, Sneijder, Suarez, Huntelaar. These guys invented, then perfected, the game we now watch. With a history like that, where else should all the European trophies be?
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:31 pm
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Ajax 1-0 Tottenham, at Tottenham.

Ajax, Unshakable on Champions League Stage, Inches Closer to Final

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/30/sports/ajax-tottenham-champions-league.html

"But the shimmy encapsulated everything; the shimmy explained it all. How a team built with a fraction of the budget of a typical Champions League contender finds itself, after Tuesday’s 1-0 victory over Spurs, 90 minutes from the final; how these players could eliminate Real Madrid and Juventus; why this squad has not just won all of its knockout games on the road, but so many hearts and minds along the way.

It came straight from the kickoff. The ball rolled back to de Jong. Scarcely can a 21-year-old have looked quite so at ease in such surroundings, such circumstances. De Ligt is the captain, and leader, of this Ajax team; Hakim Ziyech is its imagination. De Jong is its brain.
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What has characterized Ajax this season, what carried Erik ten Hag’s team past Real Madrid in the round of 16 and Juventus in the quarterfinals, is fearlessness. Ajax has not been cowed by its opponents’ reputations. It has not been discouraged by a comparative dearth of experience. It has refused to succumb to conventional wisdom, that a team from a lesser league and paid lesser wages must automatically shrink into its shell to have any hope of surviving. It has trusted its instincts, imposed its own beliefs on the most illustrious opposition, and thrived."
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2019 9:33 pm
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FiveThirtyEight's title predictions:

Liverpool 37%
Barcelona 33%
Ajax 22%
Tottenham 8%
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 10:22 am
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Barcelona 3-0 Liverpool.
Messi 2.

Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAjwRH9bd9o

FiveThirtyEight's title predictions:

Barcelona 64%
Ajax 24%
Tottenham 8%
Liverpool 4%
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 10:40 am
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In other news,

Porto keeper Casillas recovering from training ground heart attack

"World Cup-winning Spanish goalkeeper Iker Casillas reassured fans late on Wednesday that he was recovering from the heart attack he suffered hours earlier during training at the FC Porto training ground."
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2019 10:45 am
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Messi 600

Goal graph: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRckPVZ18PI
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:30 am
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Liverpool 4-0 Barcelona
Origi 7', 79'; Wijnaldum 54', 56'

Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbK7w9jJDbo

"It is the first time since 1986 - when Barcelona knocked out Gothenburg in the old European Cup - that a team have recovered a three-goal first-leg deficit to win a semi-final in this competition.
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Liverpool sealed a famous victory 11 minutes from time when Alexander-Arnold feigned to leave a corner but instead took it quickly, finding Origi unmarked to sweep the ball home."
(BBC)

Klopp: "Barcelona defend predictable things well. But you need to be unpredictable at moments. I saw the ball flying in the goal, I didn't see the corner. I didn't see who took the corner."

Alexander-Arnold: "It was just instinct. I saw the opportunity."

Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 9:45 am
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FiveThirtyEight's title predictions:

Liverpool 69%
Ajax 24%
Tottenham 7%
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:06 pm
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Insane comeback by Liverpool.

Hope Ajax beat Spurs, because I like their style of play and it would make for an interesting final.

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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:59 am
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Spurs go through. Their comeback was also from a 3:0 deficit.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 8:07 am
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Ajax 2-3 Tottenham
Moura 55', 59', 90+6'

Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSSPyr6y8ZA

Louis van Gaal (former Ajax coach): "It was admirable that Spurs had the courage to never give up and try and do the business, but it was totally unnecessary of Ajax to let it all slip. This defeat was completely unnecessary. At half-time there was nothing wrong with a 2-0 lead. In the second half, Tottenham took more and more risk and more and more attackers entered the field. Ajax made the wrong choices in possession of the ball in that phase."

Lars Lagerback (Norway coach): "I'm driven crazy here, they [Ajax] went for another goal instead of holding on to the ball and pushing back the Tottenham team. At the same time, I can appreciate them, it's a good attitude, but if you know you only have a few minutes left ... it shows that they are not as experienced."

(Reuters)


Shocked Shocked Shocked

The post was hit twice (once by each team), the crossbar once.
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 11:14 am
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FiveThirtyEight's title predictions:

Liverpool 70%
Tottenham 30%
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PostPosted: Fri May 10, 2019 10:58 am
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A Dream Delivered, and Another Dashed, in One Unforgettable Moment

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/08/sports/ajax-tottenham-champions-league.html

"Pochettino has never won a major honor. He has twice crafted Premier League title challenges, seemingly out of nowhere, before ultimately falling short. He has been roundly condemned for his very obvious disdain for England’s domestic cups, for his belief that what matters is qualifying for the Champions League, not winning the Carabao Cup.
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But the other story is about Ajax, about those players crumpled on the ground, about the fans standing silent in the stands. Nobody has put more into this competition than Ajax: literally, really, seeing as its campaign started not in the group stages, as Tottenham’s did — the good fortune of being part of one of the big leagues, the big television markets that are busy greedily bending the Champions League to their will — but several weeks before they began.
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Real Madrid was not the greatest opponent this Ajax team overcame. Nor was Juventus. Its biggest challenge, by far, was the fact that this competition is no longer for teams like this. Ajax and its ilk are, at best, tolerated by the superclubs who see the Champions League as their birthright: their continued presence ranks somewhere between a nuisance and a hangover from history. That is why Ajax, last season’s Dutch runner-up, had to start its campaign in July, and Tottenham and Liverpool — third and fourth in the Premier League last year — could wait until September.
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It will take time for Ajax’s young players, no matter how bright their future, to recover from this. But when they do, they will recall that they are not just the team that lost to Spurs in the last minute.

They are also the team that beat Real Madrid and Juventus, the team that proved that the size of a television deal is no guarantee of quality, the team that reminded a continent that excellence can exist outside of the Premier League, La Liga, the Bundesliga and Serie A. They are the team that almost went all the way from Sturm Graz to the final. They are the team that came within a minute of doing what nobody imagined they could do, that many have tried to stop them doing. They are the team that came within a minute, a minute that never seemed to end, of making a dream come true."
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 8:29 am
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(Guardian, April 30)
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 7:36 pm
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"City is not the only team to dominate domestic competitions only to stumble repeatedly in European tournaments. Paris Saint-Germain has won seven of the last eight French titles and 15 domestic cups since 2012-13 but hasn’t gotten past the quarterfinals of an international competition in more than two decades.

Juventus has won eight Serie A titles and eight Italian cups in the last eight seasons, but it hasn’t won a European title this century. Bayern Munich, which Saturday captured its seventh straight Bundesliga title, has won just one Champions League title in that span."


(LA Times)
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