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didick
didick
Joined: 17 Jun 2009 Location: Brisbane
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^Yep Varcoe does a lot that you don't see unless at the game. Living in Brisbane I only get to the game here, none in Melbourne. Saw him absolutely busting a gut the entire game, forward and back running. He was the only real player pressuring the Lions defenders when they were switching etc. Most of it doesn't result in a tackle stat or a disposal but he continuously applies the pressure. You can't see all that effort on TV.
Agree on JT. He's not going anywhere unless injured. _________________ "The night is a very dark time for me" Chaz Michael Michaels |
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Clifton Hill-Billy
Joined: 29 Sep 2011 Location: 3068----> 3076
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Beams and Cox are certain ins if fit, probably at the expense of Wills and Reid. I think at least one of JT and Mayne will miss, probably Mayne. Aish or possibly Varcoe will likely replace Mayne. If JT doesn't get up, maybe Wells could replace him. Varcoe has been tried as a forward and hasn't produced, maybe Wells might hit the scoreboard and we have paid him a lot of money for not very much to date. _________________ "Hey Ma get off the dang roof!" |
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Podpicken
Joined: 28 Oct 2006
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I get the feeling Wells will come in this week. I reckon a week we rest a couple and have a 5er.
In: Cox, Beams, Wells, Varcoe and Quaynor.
Out: Reid, Mayne, Thomas, Wills and Greenwood. _________________ Billy Picken, the great No. 25 in the sky! |
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SwansWay
Joined: 13 May 2015
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I still think with 4-5 disposals that Travis Varcoe provides a certain presence that we don't get elsewhere. The way he charges in and hunts the opposition. I'm certain he scares anybody with the football who is within earshot. |
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PyreneesPie
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Joined: 22 Aug 2014
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SwansWay wrote: | I still think with 4-5 disposals that Travis Varcoe provides a certain presence that we don't get elsewhere. The way he charges in and hunts the opposition. I'm certain he scares anybody with the football who is within earshot. |
I agree with this and other posts above that say that Varcoe's contribution cannot be measured by the usual stats. His presence on the ground seems to usually give the team a lift, simply because he shows the boys how to work their hardest. |
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piedys
Heeeeeeere's Dyso!!!
Joined: 04 Sep 2003 Location: Resident Forum Psychopath since 2003
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Damien wrote: | Nobody has won after playing Carlton this season. Just sayin’. |
Well bugger me if that isn't correct; what a random statistic!
Let's hope that we end this madness!
Hope we can get off to a flyer, a system that was working well until last week, and then perhaps outscore them by a goal or so each quarter after that?
The Brown/Marsh house of cards backline will be curious viewing, if nothing else. _________________ M I L L A N E 4 2 forever |
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Pies2016
Joined: 12 Sep 2014
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This mob have struggled to kick more than 70 odd points all season ( vs Dees the only exception )
Surely it can’t / shouldn’t be as close as the Blues game. Surely ? |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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Don't call me Shirley. |
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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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Pies2016 wrote: | This mob have struggled to kick more than 70 odd points all season ( vs Dees the only exception )
Surely it can’t / shouldn’t be as close as the Blues game. Surely ? |
It could be, the Saints are a pretty good team. They've scored 1 less point than the Blues but have conceded 40 less. The Eagles beat them by less than we beat Carlton.
Definitely a game we should win, but we should be prepared for any to be close and a potential upset, because they all are.
Speaking of scoring, we are now the 2nd top scoring team. The numbers would suggest forward is our best line.
Points For: 2nd
Points Against: 4th _________________ Well done boys! |
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Joined: 05 May 2010
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If Cox is ready, i'd send Reid back to the magoos. He was putrid on the weekend and looked like the player i thought he would be. He provides a target and a chop out from Grundy, but not much else. Cox is way ahead of him. And he is not like for like with Mihocek. _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
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I wonder if Reidy might be given more time to re-establish himself, having come this far. I'm not sure it benefits either himself or the team to drop him back too soon. He was always likely to hit a tough week or two.
That might mean Coxy being an emergency, or if we're feeling cheeky Grundy having the flu.
I would love to see Sier rushed in at senior level given Pendles has shouldered so much of the in-close stuff. The sooner the better with Adams out, you'd think.
A bit more class off half back wouldn't go astray, so in that regard the sooner the better for Quaynor, too. Do you regular seconds watchers think he can make the jump in the near term? _________________ In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
Help Nick's: http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/fundraising.htm |
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Joined: 05 May 2010
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pietillidie wrote: | I wonder if Reidy might be given more time to re-establish himself, having come this far. I'm not sure it benefits either himself or the team to drop him back too soon. He was always likely to hit a tough week or two.
That might mean Coxy being an emergency, or if we're feeling cheeky Grundy having the flu.
I would love to see Sier rushed in at senior level given Pendles has shouldered so much of the in-close stuff. The sooner the better with Adams out, you'd think.
A bit more class off half back wouldn't go astray, so in that regard the sooner the better for Quaynor, too. Do you regular seconds watchers think he can make the jump in the near term? |
Grundy is a workhorse. He doesn't like, nor need rest. He has said this many times. This is true of most quality ruckman. _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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LaurieHolden
Floreat Gymnorhina tyrannica
Joined: 22 Feb 2009 Location: Victoria Park
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Out : naming players before looking at opposition match-ups or our injury list / training reports.
In : informed decisions on match-ups, form. Tackling. _________________ "The Club's not Jock, Ted and Gerry" (& Eddie)
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Pies4shaw
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Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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Those calling for Varcoe’s return because “his output isn’t measured by stats” should consider that he was dropped after having a series of games where his output, to the extent that it could be “measured by stats” was almost non-existent. Assuming (as I do) that the Coach can “notice the little things that don’t get caught on the stats sheet” about as well as we do (some might say “better”), it seems that he and his assistants have made the call that no amount of “pressure acts” can compensate for Trav not actually touching the footy and having a kick, say, once a quarter, at minimum.
I’d like Varcoe back because he does have skill, class and pace but the Club obviously wants him to work on something because we were several players short of a functioning midfield last week and he still wasn’t in their plans. In the VFL game thread, Barrackers posted a short summary of each player’s game. His comment on Trav was that “his pressure and tackling was good”. Since that was true of his AFL games before he was dropped, the Coach is probably looking for something more. I think he can make the side better, still - but, barring injuries, he probably won’t get a call up until he starts doing whatever it is the Coach wants him to do. My wild guess is that in a team that plans to dispose of the ball about 20 times per player, every game, that involves getting the Sherrin in his hands more frequently. |
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masoncox
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Joined: 31 Aug 2015
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Pies4shaw wrote: | Those calling for Varcoe’s return because “his output isn’t measured by stats” should consider that he was dropped after having a series of games where his output, to the extent that it could be “measured by stats” was almost non-existent. Assuming (as I do) that the Coach can “notice the little things that don’t get caught on the stats sheet” about as well as we do (some might say “better”), it seems that he and his assistants have made the call that no amount of “pressure acts” can compensate for Trav not actually touching the footy and having a kick, say, once a quarter, at minimum.
I’d like Varcoe back because he does have skill, class and pace but the Club obviously wants him to work on something because we were several players short of a functioning midfield last week and he still wasn’t in their plans. In the VFL game thread, Barrackers posted a short summary of each player’s game. His comment on Trav was that “his pressure and tackling was good”. Since that was true of his AFL games before he was dropped, the Coach is probably looking for something more. I think he can make the side better, still - but, barring injuries, he probably won’t get a call up until he starts doing whatever it is the Coach wants him to do. My wild guess is that in a team that plans to dispose of the ball about 20 times per player, every game, that involves getting the Sherrin in his hands more frequently. |
His disposals are down nearly 40% over the last year and a half compared to past years.
This is the problem |
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