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stui magpie
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I saw Albo on the project, pitching to be the next opposition leader.
From a bloke labelled as being too left, he actually seems to get it. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Jezza
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Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Location: Ponsford End
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House of Representatives:
- Coalition = 76 (projected to win 78 seats)
- Labor = 65 (projected to win 67 seats)
- Greens = 1
- Katter = 1
- Centre Alliance = 1
- Independents = 3
Seats in Doubt (HoR):
Bass (89.1% counted)
- Coalition = 50.4% (32,983)
- Labor = 49.6% (32,486)
Cowan (78.8% counted)
- Labor = 50.5% (37,273)
- Coalition = 49.5% (36,520)
Lilley (82.1% counted)
- Labor = 50.5% (43,638)
- Coalition = 49.5% (42,796)
Macquarie (87.5% counted)
- Coalition = 50.1% (45,500)
- Labor = 49.9% (45,304)
Primary Vote:
- Coalition = 41.7% (-0.4%)
- Labor = 33.7% (-1.0%)
- Greens = 9.9% (-0.3%)
- United Australia = 3.4% (+3.4%)
- One Nation = 3.0% (+1.7%)
- Others = 8.3% (-2.3%)
Senate:
- Coalition = 34 (projected to win 35)
- Labor = 26
- Greens = 8 (projected to win 9)
- Centre Alliance = 2
- One Nation = 1 (projected to win 2)
- Australian Conservatives = 1
- Jacqui Lambie Network = 1 _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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Jezza
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stui magpie wrote: | ^
I saw Albo on the project, pitching to be the next opposition leader.
From a bloke labelled as being too left, he actually seems to get it. |
The key will be whether he can appeal to regional and rural QLD.
There's no doubt he's more popular than Shorten amongst Labor Party members, and I expect him to win the leadership contest. _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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stui magpie
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Morrigu, don't give up on Qld.
Quote: | "What the hell is wrong with Queensland?"
Such comments are at the polite end of social media responses from progressive voters in other parts of Australia who were disappointed by the Coalition's "miracle" win on Saturday.
Putting to one side the fact that the swings against Labor were not much bigger in Queensland than some other parts of the country, and that it had the most marginal seats in the election, the instinct to blame and deride Queensland highlights exactly what went wrong for the ALP.
Contrary to the claims of #Quexiteers, Queenslanders are not all deeply conservative, rusted-on LNP voters, even in central and northern regions.
If they were, they wouldn't have elected Labor governments for 25 of the past 30 years. |
Quote: | The problem for Labor, then, isn't that Queenslanders don't like voting Labor.
Instead, the federal Labor Party, like the many pundits who predicted an ALP win, seem to have underestimated or misunderstood the variances and nuances of the Queensland electorate.
As the only state where a majority of the population lives outside the capital city, regionalism matters in Queensland in a way it does not elsewhere. |
Good article IMHO, worth a read by those who consider them all rednecks. It's a case of different priorities, something that Bob Brown and his convoy seriously misread.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-22/quexit-is-not-the-answer-to-labors-loss-in-queensland/11139408
I like Qld, particularly FNQ, I like the people. They're genuine, unpretentious and don't take shit. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Wokko
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stui magpie wrote: | nswer-to-labors-loss-in-queensland/11139408
I like Qld, particularly FNQ, I like the people. They're genuine, unpretentious and don't take shit. |
So the exact opposite of the inner city trendies deriding them. |
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stui magpie
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Jezza wrote: | stui magpie wrote: | ^
I saw Albo on the project, pitching to be the next opposition leader.
From a bloke labelled as being too left, he actually seems to get it. |
The key will be whether he can appeal to regional and rural QLD.
There's no doubt he's more popular than Shorten amongst Labor Party members, and I expect him to win the leadership contest. |
At the moment it seems a no contest
A couple of comments he made were that they can't just focus on wealth re-distribution but also on wealth creation. He also tried to say how job creation can co exist with climate change measures and referred to the jobs created in renewables, but when Waleed challenged him that those jobs don't help coal miners in Qld, he looked like a 13 yr old caught having a tug and stuttered his way through the rest.
That's a conflict that Labor will need to resolve. They love miners and other unionised workers, but don't like the companies that employ them. Workers will vote for their paycheck every day over ideology that will lose them their job. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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stui magpie
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Wokko wrote: | stui magpie wrote: | nswer-to-labors-loss-in-queensland/11139408
I like Qld, particularly FNQ, I like the people. They're genuine, unpretentious and don't take shit. |
So the exact opposite of the inner city trendies deriding them. |
Yep. They remind me of rural people. They'll tolerate inner city lefties while they spend cash as a tourist, but don't try to lecture them or tell them what to do. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Morrigu
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Henderson concedes Corangamite to Labor’s Libby Coker
Excellent news! Should have stuck to your promise Sarah! Too late, too bad, too sad! |
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Jezza
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ABC calls Bass for the Coalition, taking it to 77 seats.
Jim Chalmers has opted to not contest for the Labor leadership contest, paving the way for Albanese to succeed Shorten. _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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David
to wish impossible things
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I think we should have learned by now that personal ideology and even factional alliances say little about what a party leader's policy direction will be.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/albanese-vows-to-end-labors-classwar-rhetoric/news-story/5dccd3b687017f55145bdf4750be803c?fbclid=IwAR2BIx3ZDydLYojNlvOlVzZsIkoZbfvfrpI-pCxkYMgQveKzzP7GI4LfvI0
Quote: | Mr Albanese, 56, has the support of right-wing unions in NSW, which believe the Grayndler MP, despite his formal factional ties to the Left, would steer the party back to the centre. Defenders of Mr Shorten claim the Victorian Right factional powerbroker was forced to steer the party to the Left over the past six years in a constant process of dealmaking to ensure leadership stability. |
By the same token, Morrison arguably went slightly to the left of Turnbull after the leadership spill, despite obviously being much further right-wing personally. No idea how that'll play out post-election, though. _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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Morrigu
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stui magpie wrote: | I like Qld, particularly FNQ, I like the people. They're genuine, unpretentious and don't take shit. |
Except from Clive it seems I wonder if he will ever pay his workers?? No need I suppose when they vote for you anyway |
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stui magpie
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Palmer was born at Footscray Hospital and lived in Williamstown before moving to the Gold Coast at 9. Hardly typical of FNQ, reasonably typical of the Gold Coast but I make no comment on Footscray. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Morrigu
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^ I know ( no recognition plaque in the foyer that's for sure) but to me it makes it even more incredible that they voted for him - a southerner who shamelessly ripped them off - they've gone soft it seems - in the old days he would have been tarred and feathered or run out of town |
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stui magpie
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I'm not subscribing to the Australian to read it, but I think I got the gist elsewhere.
Basically, he wants to steer the party to centre left, push back on Unions and the Greens agendas, put a focus on wealth creation not just redistribution and basically make them a viable alternative.
If he delivers on that, he's smart. The centre is where elections are usually won, the extremes serve their purpose by giving voters an option and providing preferences to their closest aligned major party. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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The big question is whether the country is really experiencing the strong economy spruced during the election campaign |
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