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Harrysz
Joined: 15 Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne
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Chronologically:-
1. Terry Waters kicked 5 goals on debut against North Melbourne at Vic Park in 1963. He was a great mark and kick for goal. He played in 3 losing grand finals, on the backline. Collingwood could never be accused of learning from mistakes.
2. Wayne Richardson amassed more than 30 possessions on debut against Richmond at Vic Park. It was clear that he'd be a star.
3. Rod Oborne kicked 5 goals on debut then basically disappeared.
4. Heath Shephard kicked 5 goals 9 in his first game and looked to be unbeatable. Then he too disappeared to later reappear for the Brisbane Bears.
5. Dale Thomas kicked 2 goals on debut and took a spectacular mark. There was a performance which WAS a portent of things to come. Daisy was pivotal in helping us win the flag in 2010. I forget where he is right now but I believe he'll always be regarded as a magpie.
So, who have I forgotten? Tomorrow night we'll see Jaiden Stephenson and Sam Murray make their debuts for Collingwood. Let's hope for a long successful career for them both. |
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GlovemanGayfer
Joined: 20 Apr 2004 Location: East Bentleigh
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Damien Houlihan - From memory three brownlow votes to match the three goals he kicked with his first three kicks. Obscurity followed.... |
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Boogie Knights
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Ricky Barham? 5 goals from the wing opposed to (I think) Rocket Eade.
Went on to have a handy career - 4 losing grand finals and a draw... |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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1973 VFL Prelim final a 16 yr old debut,s for Magpies (AFL/VFL record youngest player in a final)
Rene Kink (aka Tank O,Donahue) that day kicked 3 goals 2 behind in a losing game _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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watt price tully
Joined: 15 May 2007
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BazBoy wrote: | 1973 VFL Prelim final a 16 yr old debut,s for Magpies (AFL/VFL record youngest player in a final)
Rene Kink that day kicked 3 goals 2 behind in a losing game |
...and I was there. He also attended Melbourne High School (MHS) for some years where I went. In terms of academic abilities he was a great footy player. He was a year "below" me.
Our school team featured many VFL (pre AFL) and reservers, thirds and VFA players.
Basically clubs would entice players through their parents to come from the country & sell a good education in the mix. MHS also had others come to do their HSC and matricualtion before that.
In my year we had: Robbie Flower, Billy Picken, Phil Manassa, Butch Edwards, Shane Fitsimmonss amongt other (& WPT)
These days MHS has changed, AFL is not like it was I'm told at the school but that is another story. However I'm told ping pong, cricket and badminton is second to none at MHS _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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Me too WPT and also saw a young man debut in the VFL prelim of 1965
Went on to be a Collingwood great Len Thompson
That debut game overshadowed by alleged hit behind play
Duncan Wright it was said decked Somerville ❓❓❓❓❓❓ _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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Harrysz
Joined: 15 Oct 2001 Location: Melbourne
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Ricky Barham. Of course! How could I have forgotten him. I was there, at Princess Park when he kicked 5 goals on debut, from the wing. Thanks for the reminder.
Rene Kink's debut in the 1973 Prelim Final was a good debut, but there was a guy called Peter McKenna who'd been dropped for that game who might've done better. That was significant in a game which we lost by 7 points. Not Rene's fault of course but after all of these years, it still rankles. |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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Watched Demons beat us last round in 1976 to the shame of a wooden spoon
April the following year (1977) I was off to Europe till early August and pre email days I was sending and receiving air mail letters
Got all the news and a mate kept saying Mate this new kid Barham is so quick Tommy seemed to have righted the ship
Got home and slept out side Vic Park for two nights to get grannies tickets
Mark 1 and Mark 2
Yep Ricky was good _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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Sorry, guys - it wasn't Ricky's first game. He played in the two previous matches. His 3rd game was against Hawthorn. But it was a great one. |
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5 from the wing on debut
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Boogie Knights wrote: | Ricky Barham? 5 goals from the wing opposed to (I think) Rocket Eade.
Went on to have a handy career - 4 losing grand finals and a draw... |
Yes, it was against Eade. Eade has spoken about the smashing that he received on that day. I remember everyone diving into their Footy Records to find out who the quick goalkicker wearing no. 43 was. From memory, that it was the day the Hawks unveiled their '76 premiership flag, and Tommy's boys pumped them.
Another debut was Peter Marshall late in '79 - may have been the last game of the season pre finals. Promoted as Raw Shaw was out injured, got Brownlow votes, dropped the next week. |
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5 from the wing on debut
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Pies4shaw wrote: | Sorry, guys - it wasn't Ricky's first game. He played in the two previous matches. His 3rd game was against Hawthorn. But it was a great one. |
Yes you are right, but you are ruining a good story. It was the first game in which RB actually started on the ground rather than on the bench.
As Churchill once said, words to the effect of "if it's not true, it should be". I didn't want to call myself '5 from the wing on the 3rd game", it doesn't sound right. |
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What'sinaname
Joined: 29 May 2010 Location: Living rent free
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You've missed quite a few debuts. Here are some Round 1 debuts to remember:
Frankie Raso: Rd 1, Hawks, 1998: 1 free against
Luke Godden: Rd 1, StK, 1997: 4 disposals, 1 tackles and 2 frees against _________________ Fighting against the objectification of woman. |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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Heath Sheppardhis father Grahame was a doozie circa seventies
After a game at Vic Park we lingered over a lot of beers on 1st floor bar
Leaving the Social Club when our lift arrived Grahame was using key to get into his Falcon and after several unsuccessful attempts finally listened to his partner who for ten minutes tried to tell him it werent his Falcon _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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Harrysz wrote: | Ricky Barham. Of course! How could I have forgotten him. I was there, at Princess Park when he kicked 5 goals on debut, from the wing. Thanks for the reminder.
Rene Kink's debut in the 1973 Prelim Final was a good debut, but there was a guy called Peter McKenna who'd been dropped for that game who might've done better. That was significant in a game which we lost by 7 points. Not Rene's fault of course but after all of these years, it still rankles. |
Might have done better, but Supermac had struggled to get more than 4 possessions in the preceding three weeks, averaging about two goals. I loved him, but he was way below his best by then. I was there that day, and it was the second worst Colliwobbles performance after 1970. We were about 45 points up late in the 2nd quarter, but we all knew what was likely to happen next. And it did, of course. Sigh. Such a strange era. _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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duke750
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Location: Buderim QLD
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Allan Toovey had a pretty good debut...3 goals against Richmond. Then became a very good defender. _________________ Magpies forever.
First Colligwood game: Western Oval 1960 |
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