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E
Joined: 05 May 2010
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Post subject: We haven't beaten ANYONE in the eight! Until Now!!! | |
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This is a fascinating season, but interestingly, we have hardly played (and haven't beaten) ANYONE that is in the 8
WCE - haven't played
Rich - lost badly
Melbourne - we crushed 'em
Sydney - haven't played
Geelong - lost badly
North - haven't played.
Coll
Port - haven't played.
We are 7-2 against the 9 teams outside the 8 we have played and only have Gold Coast to play. _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk .......
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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^ true, but I was at the Geelong and Richmond games. In neither game did we lose “badly”. We were well in both games half way through the last quarter and ran out of legs after losing key players to injury quite early on. You can argue that the final margin to Richmond was a bad loss, but that was not the prevailing view of most unbiased commentators after the game.
If we win this Monday it will be a season defining event, because it’ll show that we have the goods to play top four - but if we lose, I do not think we are out of contention for a 5-8 slot. I still think we are a reasonable smokey for a flag, especially if we can get a late season out of Jamie Elliott like we had last year. A forward line of JDG, Hoskin, Jamie Elliott and Wells/Varcoe, with Cox and Mihocek/Reid as targets, is a daunting prospect. _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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David
to wish impossible things
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: the edge of the deep green sea
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Only beaten one team in the top 11, in fact. This is why I don’t think we’re a top 8 side yet – but winning form is good form, and I’m excited to see what we can achieve in the second half of the year. _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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Mossi
Joined: 20 May 2002 Location: Vittorio Veneto TV Italy
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E wrote: | This is a fascinating season, but interestingly, we have hardly played (and haven't beaten) ANYONE that is in the 8
WCE - haven't played
Rich - lost badly
Melbourne - haven't played
Sydney - haven't played
Geelong - lost badly
North - haven't played.
Coll
Port - haven't played.
We are 7-2 against the 9 teams outside the 8 we have played and only have Gold Coast to play. |
An Arguement that has many holes in it. We beat Adelaide when they had most of their good players in their squad and were a top 4 side! They did demolish the TIgers or not! But we beat them on their own turf. We did loose to the Cats and tigers but as others have said we were playing uphill with the loss of key players during both matches. Anyway we start playing "top 8 sides" from Monday son hopefully we start beating some and hope they don't fall out of the 8 if we beat them! |
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Jpies
Joined: 09 Apr 2016
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I don't think you can read much into it. The sides that win end up in the 8, the sides that lose are out of it. We've won, and are above the sides we beat. It's not always that simple due to unexpected results, but this season seems to have had fewer major upsets than usual.
Also, having not beaten sides in the 8 is reflective of where we sit. If we had beaten sides in the 8, we would be higher up the ladder. If we had beaten Geelong we would be 'equal' 3rd (not counting for what our hypothetical percentage may have been). So 7th is a fair reflection of a team that can beat all of the sides outside the 8, but none/very few in it.
I really don't see why this is surprising? |
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ROB
Joined: 13 Sep 2016 Location: Sydney
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Even if we only keep beating sides below us we still more than likely play finals - that's a good start for 2019 if nothing else. Of course, any side above us can be beaten on the day subject to injuries, umpiring decisions, weather etc etc. Our confidence is starting to run high which can account for a lot in any match. _________________ Toby for President |
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Pies2016
Joined: 12 Sep 2014
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And the team that “ everyone “ is raving about, the Demons, has only beaten ONE team in the eight.
Guess we will know more on Monday. |
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WhyPhilWhy?
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West Coast have only beaten teams below them... |
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MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: Elwood
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Mugwump wrote: | ^ true, but I was at the Geelong and Richmond games. In neither game did we lose “badly”. We were well in both games half way through the last quarter and ran out of legs after losing key players to injury quite early on. You can argue that the final margin to Richmond was a bad loss, but that was not the prevailing view of most unbiased commentators after the game.
If we win this Monday it will be a season defining event, because it’ll show that we have the goods to play top four - but if we lose, I do not think we are out of contention for a 5-8 slot. I still think we are a reasonable smokey for a flag, especially if we can get a late season out of Jamie Elliott like we had last year. A forward line of JDG, Hoskin, Jamie Elliott and Wells/Varcoe, with Cox and Mihocek/Reid as targets, is a daunting prospect. |
Only if we learn to play consistent football for 4 quarters of the game. We haven't done that this year (maybe Essendon the exception). It doesn't matter who comes into the team if we can't play for 4 quarters. |
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Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne
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We beat the Crows who were in the eight at the time. |
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mattdally
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Hardly an issue - Melbourne are supposedly the form side of the comp - can someone remind me who they have beaten in the 8?
WCE - Not played
Rich - Smashed by 46 points
Syd - Not played
Geelong - Lost by 3 points
North - beat them easy but they are suspect top 8
Coll - TBC Monday
Port - Haven't played them
They lost to Hawks when they were in the 8 by 67 points.
I am not sure they are as good as they are pumped up to be. |
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Johnno75
Joined: 07 Oct 2010 Location: Wantirna
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I think it could be our biggest game in 5 years.
Last 4 wins have been pretty good but have been against teams below us on the ladder but is expected for a team aspiring to climb back up the ladder.
We have had some really good wins like the Adelaide game a few weeks ago but I think the time has now come to make a real stand up against a team that is red hot.
It's not just a great win against a good opposition late in the year when our season has been done and dusted and gives us a bit of hope as we have done a few times over the last couple of years.
Imagine the belief if we can win 4 in a row and go to the bye 8-4 knocking off the form team over the past month. I'd go as far as saying if we win on Monday then we can book in September.
Time to make a real stand Collingwood and as Bucks says play our branch but we need to to really give a good 4 qtr contest. _________________ Human behavioural studies suggest people who use a lot of swear words tend to be more honest & trustworthy. |
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Cam
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Joined: 10 May 2002 Location: Springvale
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This is similar to Richmond last year. Time, as usual, will tell. _________________ Get back on top. |
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E
Joined: 05 May 2010
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mattdally wrote: | Hardly an issue - Melbourne are supposedly the form side of the comp - can someone remind me who they have beaten in the 8?
WCE - Not played
Rich - Smashed by 46 points
Syd - Not played
Geelong - Lost by 3 points
North - beat them easy but they are suspect top 8
Coll - TBC Monday
Port - Haven't played them
They lost to Hawks when they were in the 8 by 67 points.
I am not sure they are as good as they are pumped up to be. |
This is also super interesting. If WCE, Sydney and Port havent played both Collingwood or Melbourne, me thinks there are a lot of blockbusters coming in the second half of the season.
I just think its interesting how few top 8 teams we've played. _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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Piesnchess
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FWIW Bloody Tigers have not beaten anyone of note either, nobody from last yrs top eight, but I sure as hell don't hear their fans complaining !! None of their awesome 96 000 members are saying a damn word. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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