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MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: Elwood
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BazBoy wrote: | I feel Jack Magden has learned on the job
There are many in the who could use his never give up approach |
Again we’re ignoring the issues here. It’s not about which individuals played well. It’s a team sport played against an opposition team. We don’t have the right mix of personal on the field. Other teams cover more ground than us. Madgen is another of those slower players who maximizes their skill. For every Madgen we field we need speedy players around him. Do we drop IQ because he conceded 5 goals to Toby Green? Hardly. It’s all about getting the right mix of players and winning or losing tells you whether you get it right or wrong. |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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I actually watched Jack,s goal and it came off the back of Beau Mac tackle which forced GWS player to get pinged for deliberate
What is the thoughts on he with hs take no prisoners approach to the contest having a spell down with Beau
And to rephrase that Jack is learning game by game—he has come a long way from that May night at SCG in 2019 where Sam Reid cut him up with 4 goals
There are players who have to build a career & a few who are gifted
Blokes like Jack Crisp and Nick Maxwell became very good competitive players thru perseverance
Jack is I hope on his way to a good career _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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The Collingwood INC Player of the Week goes to !!!!!!
Beau McCreery —-goin back fer nother look _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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Pep
Joined: 06 Apr 2018
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Went to the game, and it really hit me how backwards our list has gone since 2018. The lack of apparent depth is a real concern...
Surely this year needs to be a year where we find out the kids we drafted in the last 3 years have what it takes as the current 22 is not the answer.
Giants had some thing like 10 players who had played 1-20 games each or something? This was the game to put youth into the team, as surely the club know we are one paced and don't have speed to keep up with young teams??
Our bottom six (best 22) players are just don't contribute enough, can't carry that many plodders and most mistakes come from those players, due to lack of speed, awareness, panic under pressure or just don;t have the support around them from the rest of the team to help them out...
So many orange jumpers around the ball... When Mumford who can barely move weaves in and around our players for a give and receive, shows just how poor we were/are.
And yet when we got the ball we somehow kicked to outnumbered opponents who moved the ball quickly and put us under immense pressure...
A lot went wrong on Saturday night, but my main concern with our list, is that our foot skills are horrendous!! Also, how hard is it to handball to some ones mid section instead of their feet??
Our forward line would function a lot better if our inside 50 entries weren't half a foot high or big up and under kicks that create a pack, (we also have no one who can take a pack mark bar Howe and Moore who are at the other end of the ground) looking at the stats, we had more inside 50's, we had 4 more than the giants, we get the ball, but use it so poorly!!
Which has been consistent for 2-3 years now.
Our backline is pretty solid and keeps us in games, we need to build a team that rebounds quickly form defence, by adding quick/skillfull players?
Lets see what Macrae, McInnes, Poulter, McMahon, Rantall can offer? McCreery was a breath of fresh air with his attack on the ball. A few ore players like that can change a game. I'm sure Henry would want another crack after his first game.
other teams have have success this year with it, we need to try something... |
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Location: The 18
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Playing West Coast in Perth is not the time to blood a host of youngsters.
A massacre is awaiting us as it is.
No, wait a week and leave the debuts for Anzac day. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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They look like they have a likely one in Mc Creery ( impressive first up so see him build on that)
Another who,s video clips looks ready made is Cabel Poulter at 191 cm and 78 kg
Inside mid —-worth a try ????? _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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Big T
Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Location: Torino, Italy
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swoop42 wrote: | Playing West Coast in Perth is not the time to blood a host of youngsters.
A massacre is awaiting us as it is.
No, wait a week and leave the debuts for Anzac day. |
Anzac day will be a similar massacre as well... _________________ Buon Giorno |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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We have no choice it appears with at least one inclusion as Tay Adams a non starter
Would think medical sub (Greenwood) replace him
Who comes in then. Maybe inside mid Poulter _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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Abdul The Bull
Joined: 02 Aug 2017
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swoop42 wrote: | Playing West Coast in Perth is not the time to blood a host of youngsters.
A massacre is awaiting us as it is.
No, wait a week and leave the debuts for Anzac day. |
And then Queen's Birthday! Wow, it's been quite a while since I've dreaded this part of the season. _________________ There are 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't. |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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The selection of their most experienced players has achieved one win from 4
And taken into account there are not many more with a lot of AFL exposure it’s bite the bullet time and let it be dare time
Not 3 or 4 newbies. But a possible two at the start. Starting now _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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robevpau1
Joined: 25 Mar 2008
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"Losing with young players who are learning is far more palatable than losing with old or under-performing players". - Michael Gleeson, 'The Age' today... |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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robevpau1 wrote: | "Losing with young players who are learning is far more palatable than losing with old or under-performing players". - Michael Gleeson, 'The Age' today... |
yup _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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I found McCreery an invigorating part of Sat night—-I go back further when I first saw Greening / Barham/Daicos
Not knowing what to expect I was pleasantly surprised
Every generation in fact every season up pops a new future 200 + gamer
Let’s do what’s been done for generations—every thing old is new again
Let’s do what other side’s in the comp are trialling _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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Pies4shaw
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Greening, Barham and Peter Daicos would never have got a game in a Buckley-coached team. He's only interested in "work rate" and "pressure acts". There's no place in his "structures" for "talent". |
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Mr Miyagi
Joined: 14 Sep 2018
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Pies4shaw wrote: | Greening, Barham and Peter Daicos would never have got a game in a Buckley-coached team. He's only interested in "work rate" and "pressure acts". There's no place in his "structures" for "talent". |
Lol we complained the same thing with Malthouse, and with Shaw before him (remember Jason Wilde getting a game every week?). Thing about playing the kids is that we could get thumped — would have been 10 goals plus last week without Sidey for example. Do we want 100 point losses? That could kill the development of younger players, we’ve seen it before
We had Pendles, Adams and Sier off hurt in one quarter against GWS, and Adams and Sier didn’t return. If they were both fit I reckon we would have won. |
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