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robevpau1
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eddiesmith wrote: | Donny wrote: | MCG. 7.20 (was 7.50 AFL site now showing 7.20)
Been having computer probs. What's the official start time ? |
You in SA? |
No Vic - SA would be 7.20pm. |
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Dark Beanie
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Location: A galaxy far, far away.
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shawthing wrote: | Did people not pick up the news that Johnson hurt his ankle at training yesterday? Won't play. |
Fly said someone stood on AJs foot.
He may not be right for Friday night but should be OK to play in the VFL on Sunday afternoon. He was training in the white top so that usually indicates playing in the VFL.
FWIW, Howe was playing in the backline during the match sim part in the last part training on Wednesday. _________________ If you are foolish enough to be contented, don't show it, but just grumble with the rest. - Jerome K Jerome |
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Gerry Cooper
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Take_a_Screamer wrote: | The Age: The one per cent club - From little things big problems emerge at Collingwood.
Kane Cornes, AFL columnist, August 24, 2023 — 11.43am
Flirting with form leading into the AFL finals can be a dangerous temptation for many teams. Managing sore players before September’s big games is a wise play. Ensuring one is not mistaken for the other is a significant challenge for every coach taking a team to finals, especially when there is such a fine line between triumph and mediocrity.
Chief playmakers Jordan de Goey, Darcy Moore and Nick Daicos have been absent in recent weeks and Collingwood’s form has suffered. The question now is whether the Magpies have enough time to recapture their form and hunger for the finals. Collingwood have had – by virtue of their strong winning form from late March to late July – the luxury in August to look well in advance to September. But have the Magpies begun to pay more than they have gained? The little things – the so-called “one percenters” – are making the difference at Collingwood. Some of these small things are obvious on the stats sheet measured on game day. Some are an intangible force, stemming from the bond between the players and their impressive coach, Craig McRae. This has driven the Magpies’ rise to league leader and premiership favourite.
Guided by new-age leader Darcy Moore, Collingwood have showcased flair and velocity in their game. The dynamic ball movement and handball chains from half-back have drawn comparisons with the American exhibition basketball team, the Harlem Globetrotters, renowned for their showmanship and skills. But the allure of the Magpies is not solely found in their attacking style of play. Equally impressive is their aggressive defence, which limited opponents to an average of 68.5 points from rounds 1-19. This was the meanest defence in football. The players rallied around each other, especially when errors were made. Under McRae’s leadership, the team’s attitude remained persistently positive when tested.
In defeating Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval in the top-of-the-table clash in round 19, Collingwood secured a top-two spot and guaranteed themselves a home qualifying final at the MCG. But the journey has taken an unexpected turn towards mediocrity ever since Any ambitious team rests in its capacity to measure each success as a stepping stone rather than a final destination. Collingwood, however, became comfortable and complacent – somewhat strange for a team yet to achieve any real success. Injuries to pivotal players, including Nick Daicos and Moore, have hurt performance, but the blame goes well beyond having a few star players in the medical rooms. The Magpies have stumbled in three of their past four matches. The much-admired defensive framework that had bamboozled opponents is gone.
There is a clear blueprint for beating Collingwood: match the Magpies in the midfield and expose their lack of speed, protect the corridor, apply massive pressure, and do not let their intercepting defenders mark the ball. A dramatic transformation has unfolded. McRae’s team, the most miserly defence for 19 weeks, is now the league’s most expensive. From rounds 20-23, it has conceded an average of 105.8 points. During the same stretch, Collingwood also ranks last in goals conceded per inside-50m percentage, the defensive-50m pressure rating and the contested-possession differential. Collingwood have conceded more than 100 points in each of their past three games; a trend not seen since 2008.
McRae’s usually optimistic tone faded after the loss to the Brisbane Lions last Friday. “There’s something to be said about hunger, isn’t there? You take something away from someone, and there’s an element of ‘I want that back’,” he said. Moore and teammate Jamie Elliot were spotted cruising on a boat in Sydney Harbour before the Women’s World Cup final on Sunday night, according to a News Corp report. It is far from the ideal finals preparation, particularly for Moore, who is trying to recover from a hamstring injury a week earlier.
Big man Mason Cox returned to the line-up as the substitute on Friday night and was influential when thrust into the game as a ruckman in the second half. Cox would be acutely aware he is at risk of being left out of the team in September. He played with the intensity of a player on his last chance. Where was this intensity from Cox in his previous five games when he averaged five disposals and kicked just one goal? Comfort, perhaps, had seeped in. Midfielder Jordan De Goey’s season was stellar until a suspension for a brutal hit on West Coast rookie Elijah Hewitt in round 12. Since his return in round 17, De Goey’s performance has been underwhelming. Despite his exceptional talent, he has never secured All-Australian honours in nine seasons.
Irrespective of the outcome against a bruised Essendon on Friday night, Collingwood’s top-two status is safe. However, a hungry defensive display is a must to quell doubts – even those of their coach – about the team’s hunger. Formidable challenges lie ahead for a complacent team that subconsciously views itself as better than it is. Collingwood must find the hunger switch before a premiership falls through their hands. Is it too late?
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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-one-per-cent-club-from-little-things-big-problems-emerge-at-collingwood-20230823-p5dyuv.html |
A lack of a Plan B once the intercept strategy in defence is negated would be a good thing. We dont seem to have one. We have lots of talented running intercepting backs but we have no genuine stoppers, particularly a stopper that can blanket a small forward.
We also have lots of trouble controlling the football in defence from a kick out. We've been losing the contest in the air and losing it when the ball comes to ground. Often the ball is rebounded by the opposition back into a dangerous position or a rebound goal. That isnt helped by predictable kickouts to the same spot every time.
These are pretty fundamental problems but not ones likely to be addressed this season.
Magpies by 10-20 points max. _________________ We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true.�
Last edited by Gerry Cooper on Thu Aug 24, 2023 6:56 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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warburton lad
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Every team has fundamental problems, hopefully we can cover up ours...
I have every confidence that the Pies will bounce out of the blocks on Friday night and win handsomely.
No Murphy, Moore, Johnson, Nick Daicos, Mccreery
Gives a great chance for others to shine
We still have a very good team and I think Essendon will be weakened by putting players out to surgery etcetera...
Floreat Pica _________________ Firm in the belief that number 17 flag is only months away... |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Our whole game plan stems from effort and defence first. When they're down, we give up goals and struggle to score. Fly knows that and apparently the players have been focusing on that this week.
You can't just flick a switch but you can commit to tangible things like run, tackle and effort, which results in the switch being flicked.
Pies by 42 points. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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R.Barham
Joined: 25 Jun 2005 Location: Melbourne
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Let’s hope you are right Stui
It’s now or never!! |
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Location: The 18
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perthmagpie
Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Location: Yarrawonga
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The theme for training this week was:
Fight
Reset
Fight
Reset _________________ Magpies love pies(Lol) |
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the fuzz
Fuzz loves Bruzz
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Good to see Macrae get a crack.
Welcome back Jordy and Bobby.
Pies by 62 |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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swoop42 wrote: | https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/1414362/three-in-for-final-home-and-away-clash
In: De Goey, Hill, Macrae
Out: Ryan, Murphy, McCreery
Sub:Macrae |
We're bloody short down back. Howe has to play back otherwise it's all on Frampton. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Take_a_Screamer
.....No.40...Ash Johnson...
Joined: 22 Aug 2018 Location: Melbourne S.E.Suburbs
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Dons lose six
This is a practice match for us
Essendon v Collingwood at the MCG, Friday 7.50pm AEST
ESSENDON
In: S.Weideman, N.Bryan, W.Snelling, W.Setterfield, K.Baldwin
Out: J.Caldwell (hip), M.Guelfi (hamstring), P.Wright (Injured), S.Draper (hip), J.Stringer (foot), J.Kelly (Injured)
R23 sub: Jake Stringer _________________ Ash Johnson...you beauty
Johnson Screamer @ https://www.afl.com.au/video/931485/johnson-reaches-superman-heights-to-take-epic-mark? ❤️️ |
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Ronnie McKeowns boots
Ronnie Mckeowns boots
Joined: 27 Jul 2020
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Yep, with 2 rucks Howe goes back...we are also playing 2 inside mids with another one as the sub. Not sure about the balance, would prefer Mitchell to have a rest and bring in McInnes _________________ "You hate a mean man, a grasping man, a man who wants everything and gives nothing. That’s Collingwood. They are a law unto themselves"
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tbaker
Joined: 02 Jul 2018 Location: Q19 Southern Stand MCG
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swoop42 wrote: | It would seem Essendon aren't exactly going all out for the win. |
Essendon & Geelong are doing their best to pick a team to not win - they want to finish with a higher draft order - makes sense. _________________ I find your lack of faith disturbing |
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David
to wish impossible things
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: the edge of the deep green sea
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Take_a_Screamer wrote: | Dons lose six
This is a practice match for us
Essendon v Collingwood at the MCG, Friday 7.50pm AEST
ESSENDON
In: S.Weideman, N.Bryan, W.Snelling, W.Setterfield, K.Baldwin
Out: J.Caldwell (hip), M.Guelfi (hamstring), P.Wright (Injured), S.Draper (hip), J.Stringer (foot), J.Kelly (Injured)
R23 sub: Jake Stringer |
McDonald-Tipungwuti is apparently their sub, btw. _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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Donny
Formerly known as MAGFAN8.
Joined: 04 Aug 2002 Location: Toonumbar NSW Australia
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Thanks, mate.
7.50 it is. _________________ Donny.
It's a game. Enjoy it. |
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