Trade Targets ~ Free Agency & MSD player movements

[inxs88]

We have qualified and participated in 11 Preliminary Finals since 2002. An exceptional record and one that has provided all Pies fans with unbelievable journey of joy in this time.
That aside, our greatest weakness and challenge ahead is our inability to headhunt and procure bonafide MATCH-WINNERS from other clubs since the recruitment of Nathan Buckley in 1994. A sobering statistic if there ever was one.

Consider rival clubs who have secured these high-end talents to great effect since the Bux recruitment.
* Geelong: P. Dangerfield and J Cameron
* Carlton: C Judd,
* Swans: B Hall, L Franklin, T Lockett
* Melbourne: S May and J Lever (lesser degree)
* Richmond: T Lynch
* West Coast: J Kennedy
* Hawks: Brian Lake, J Gunston
* Port: B Pickett, G Wanganeen
* Brisbane: A Lynch
* North: S Grant

We can do better!

[Said by Zed]

[LaurieHolden]

[Pies2016]

[piffdog]

The question is how do we get Bailey Smith? Is he a free agent? Is a matter of cash or do we have to trade players/picks? Club has come out and said they done want to be trading away picks anymore have they?

[Take_a_Screamer]

from the article...
"He’s done his knee, and he’s been inconsistent since that (2021) finals series,” the Herald Sun’s Jay Clark pointed out. Landsberger suggested a future first and second could be enough to land Smith."

[Pies2016]

[LaurieHolden]

^we have zero trade currency in 2024 from players coming out of contract. Our 2024 organic draft points with pick no's 22*, 40, 44 = total 1636
(pick #22 received from Hawthorn in 2023 - swapped with pick #26)

I remain hopeful that the AFL grant might yet set a precedent and grant us a draft concession off the retirement of Murphy, given it was an AFL panel ruling.

AFL clubs are subject to certain rules regarding the trading of draft picks. One key rule is that clubs must make at least **two first-round selections in each four-year period.
This means they cannot trade away all their first-round picks within that timeframe. Additionally, when it comes to draft picks, clubs can only trade picks from **that year and the next year.

So to my point. If we're going to get a seat at the negotiating table in 2024 for the likes of a Bailey Smith, given we've traded our organic 2024 draft points via our 1st rounder to Freo. we'd need to draw from 2025 where our organic draft points remain uncompromised. Or trade a player.
Of our 2025 out of contact list, the only players we have that presents tangible 1st round trade currency are Hill and Maynard.
It will be natural for each to be looking for longer term deals. This is where I think it'll get interesting with Maynard. If we want a future first from a player swap only, he's the one Clubs will be asking the question over.
2nd round trade currency might be then derived from Frampton, Jiath, Johnson, Harrison, Macrae, Parker.

Ash Johnson Non-Free Agent
Billy Frampton Non-Free Agent
Bobby Hill Non-Free Age
Brayden Maynard Unrestricted Free Agent
Brody Mihocek Restricted Free Agent
Finlay Macrae Non-Free Agent
Harvey Harrison Non-Free Agent
Jamie Elliott Unrestricted Free Agent
Mason Cox Unrestricted Free Agent
Tew Jiath Non-Free Agent
Tom Mitchell Non-Free Agent
Wil Parker Non-Free Agent

Of our 2026 out of contact list, we're left with what are currently 2nd rounders, although hoping Ed Allan really starts to push into senior selection to become a top tier prospect.

Darcy Cameron Non-Free Agent
Edward Allan Non-Free Agent
Harry Demattia Non-Free Agent
Jack Crisp Unrestricted Free Agent
Jakob Ryan Non-Free Agent
John Noble Restricted Free Agent

Before the b&w toys get thrown from the cot on the prospect of trading Maynard, all of those already howling for a KPF, KPD, what are you going to going to trade with in order to secure one? As it stands, we can cover a player like Maynard, that's not where our deficit lies.
Otherwise, it's the equivalent of taking Australian Dollars into the USA on holidays and expecting like for like. You either have to go without or dip into future savings.
We keep banging on about the veteran quandary, we'll there's 7 players in the departure lounge we need to replace in two years. We'll have the $$$, just missing the organic draft capital.
Replacing the caliber of those veteran players will require emotion to be put aside in order to bring in the 4 players in the 75-125 game mark and 2-3 free-agent guns over the next 2 years, all before the Devils raid the draft in 2027.

[piedys]

[piedys]

[Pies2016]

[stui magpie]

We've apparently stated we want to bring in top talent, but we want to keep top draft picks and use free agency, so that lets out baily Smith and Ugle Hagen.
Rory Lobb is a more realistic target, with Sam Darcy and the others, the Dogs might be happy to get his salary off the books.

[The Black and White Lion]

Great intel on Freeman thanks for sharing. Langdon inspired right from his debut in defence at the old Telstra Dome vs the Eagles I think. We got belted and he was the one shining light.

Lobb seems an obvious target for a few teams but I’m not really sure. Inconsistent tall. Goes missing for huge chunks of the season. Made Tabener look good at Freo. Never was sure why he left GWS I think that was a career mistake in the long run. He did have a day out in 2022 against the dogs at Marvel kicking about 5 from the pockets close to the 50m line but has been more off than on for me.

Would prefer a strong physical FWD ruck but in the absence of one available, I’m still sure that I don’t want Lobb

[inxs88]

[Take_a_Screamer]

^ LH, talk of trading heart and soul Maynard out seems sacrilegious to me.
It gives me heart papitations. This must NOT happen.