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HAL
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AN_Inkling
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In: Ball, Swan, Dwyer
Out: Sidebottom, Maxwell, Adams
Adams the obvious omission with Ball back. Ball, Swan, Dwyer all good ins.
A good call to go with one ruck, will be a good chance to see how White goes as backup. Interesting though that the one ruck is Witts. Has he gone past Grundy, or are we just giving him an opportunity?
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | In: Ball, Swan, Dwyer
Out: Sidebottom, Maxwell, Adams
Adams the obvious omission with Ball back. Ball, Swan, Dwyer all good ins.
A good call to go with one ruck, will be a good chance to see how White goes as backup. Interesting though that the one ruck is Witts. Has he gone past Grundy, or are we just giving him an opportunity? |
Maybe Grundy's back is a bit worse than we have been led to believe.
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Ball is no 100% Certain and would not surprise me if Adam’s came in for Ball
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Still half a season to go plus finals so I think we're just easing the load on Grundy now with the side benefit of giving Witts more opportunity as our main ruck option.
As far as actual tap work to advantage goes it's pretty even between Grundy and Witts with Witts if anything slightly in front.
Grundy gets the nod in terms of work around the ground and second efforts at ruck contests while Witts has shown a little more as a forward IMO though neither have shown enough at present in that role to warrant us going with a two ruck setup.
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Bit of a personal question, that, Hal....
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HAL
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swoop42
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Elliott's was better.
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Mugwump
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| swoop42 wrote: | Still half a season to go plus finals so I think we're just easing the load on Grundy now with the side benefit of giving Witts more opportunity as our main ruck option.
As far as actual tap work to advantage goes it's pretty even between Grundy and Witts with Witts if anything slightly in front.
Grundy gets the nod in terms of work around the ground and second efforts at ruck contests while Witts has shown a little more as a forward IMO though neither have shown enough at present in that role to warrant us going with a two ruck setup. |
At this stage it seems to me that Witts is a better ruckman. Grundy gives away too many frees, often in front of goal, and Witts seems to me a better tap ruckman. Neither are great at taking overhead marks, and both are ok at ground level - though Grundy may have the edge there, one or two extra clearances do not make up for the other things that give big Jarrod the edge. I hope there is a place for both, as both are exciting prospects as they mature. Maturity may also make one far better than the other, of course. I recall a time, ca 2010, when I thought Sidebottom was a coming megastar star and Beams a good player. Now both are excellent, but Beams is slightly superior... Time will tell.
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perthmagpie 
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If Frawley plays forward who will play on Cloke? Chalet or Christian Slalom?
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woftam 
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| I think Grundy is the better tap ruckman of the two. Witts has very little leap & centre bounces & still gets pushed around a bit. Needs a few more KG's on him. Other than that there is not much between them. |
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Dave The Man
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| woftam wrote: | | I think Grundy is the better tap ruckman of the two. Witts has very little leap & centre bounces & still gets pushed around a bit. Needs a few more KG's on him. Other than that there is not much between them. |
I think Grundy as a way bigger Upside then Witts.
As you say Witts hardly leaves the Ground and he is a bit of Slow Plodder around the Ground
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Not sure who has the bigger future. Witts has better skills and is a giant, but Grundy goes in hard and is more mobile. Will be interesting to see.
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Dave The Man
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | | Not sure who has the bigger future. Witts has better skills and is a giant, but Grundy goes in hard and is more mobile. Will be interesting to see. |
Don’t think there is Much Between there Skills Actually. Bing 210cm does help in the Reach he gets over other Ruckman
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