A Novel Idea

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so as we look at the bottom of the draft, the only team with a high draft pick who arguably has a team that is finals bound next year is Greater Western Sydney.

Players to GWS for our 2 or 3 pick and then something to North with the promise not to touch their choice for number 1, and we get the number 1 pick AND Daicos!!

Since we are 5 years from a flag, the players i'd offer up are Sidey and Maynard. Both would make GWS better instantly and neither will play in our next flag.

[Piesnchess]

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[Big T]

They want more than that.

[Harrysz]

I like the bit about "the promise not to touch their choice for number 1" - there's something somewhere about not manipulating the draft.
there are severe penalties for that!

[simon tonna]

E. Collingwood has needed to trade players with value for the last 5 years to stay competitive for the one and only goal in the competition. What makes you think as a club we would do the right thing now?

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

[inxs88]

Great to see you author some content E. Well done. Maynard is 24 years old and would like to think he has a career post 29 years of age ahead of him. Melbourne reportedly are keen on him. That being said I think the Gold Coast are our best destination club to offload talent given their dearth of experienced culture setting players. Who on our list could make a difference to them?

Probably Steele Sidebottom. 30 years old, never relied on pace, durable, outside one indiscretion is a pillar and with his 2022 being his last year on his current deal, the allure of a 3 year deal on good money may interest him given we are out of our premiership window. What would we ask for and what may be realistic? Given he is contracted to us we do have "hand" so their pick 22 maybe a handy starting point.

Can't see them wanting J Thomas but given he is a Gold Coast protege, he may be steak knives in the deal.

[MatthewBoydFanClub]

Sorry, don't agree with any of that. You take a player we have on the rookie list in Jack Ginnivan. He tackles well, makes the most of his opportunities and kicks the ball through the middle of the goals. These guys could turn out better than a top 10 draft pick. You may or may not get a first round pick for Maynard + Sidebottom + Josh Thomas, but it will only send our fortunes backwards, not forwards.

[Pies2016]

At some point, if you keep treating players as pawns, it further tarnishes our image as a destination club.
Having said that, if Sidey ( or whoever ) came to the club and said I’m open to a change of club, then that’s a different story but until players like him can no longer hold his spot in our best 22, I think they are better served as mentors and leaders to our young group ( particularly with our list profile )

If I was to consider an optional strategy in relation to improving our draft / trading hand at the end of the season, I would put our 2022 first round pick on the table ( subject to AFL rules which I can’t confirm ) We would be expected to be rubbish again in 2022, so the return on that pick would be significant. Much easier to find suitors for a top ten pick than a thirty year old quality player who is well past his best. By 2022, our list will be that young, the club may not feel the need for more youth on the list anyway.
Chopping up our 2022 first rounder would easily wipe any 2021 points deficit away and also either pick up a ready made player OR invest again with another mid range pick in the 2021 draft.
While it smacks of chasing our tail at the draft, I think it’s a more sound option than throwing around senior players names like they’re horse meat.

[Boogie Knights]

As always, Pies2016 provides a sound, logical and reasonable option.

My understanding of the rule for trading future 1sts is that you must have used 2 first round picks in the preceding 4 years to be eligible. On that basis, we will have used 5 as follows (regardless of 4 year period; 2017 - 2020 or 2018 - 2021).
- 2021 - 1 x Nick Daicos
- 2020 - 3 x Oliver Henry, Fin Macrae, Reef McInnes
- 2019 - 0
- 2018 - 1 x IQ
- 2017 - 1 x Jaidyn Stephenson

This would allow us to trade our 2022 first rounder.

The problem with trading future firsts, without a first round FS for that year, is you don't have first round young talent coming into the club, as has been the case following the Treloar, Beams deals which have left us a bit of a donut list - players starting their careers or nearing retirement with nothing in the middle. It's a bit similar to back ending contracts where the club makes a future sacrifice for present day pay off.

The difference in our situation is that we have plenty of youngsters on the list now and with the additions of Daicos and (hopefully) Dib we may, as Pies2016 says, not be looking for more as we'll have enough. Instead of drafting top end youngsters, we can look at taking a punt in the middle of the draft on mature agers hoping we strike another Checkers to fill out the list. This can also be done needs based rather than best available.

I would absolutely be looking to bring that 2022 pick forward to cover all the Daicos points and bring in another asset with it.

[derkd]

[Pies2016]

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Cheers B K.

I think your eligibility summary is right but I’m always mindful of the AFL constantly shifting the goal posts on anything connected to draft and trading rules. Hopefully the above stands firm for the upcoming trade period and we can at least entertain the idea when the time comes.

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