2019-2020 EPL Discussion Thread
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Weekend and Midweek Matches:
Saturday June 27 2020:
Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers - 12:30
Sunday June 28 2020:
Watford v Southampton - 16:30
Monday June 29 2020:
Crystal Palace v Burnley - 20:00
Tuesday June 30 2020:
Brighton & Hove Albion v Manchester United - 20:15
Wednesday July 1 2020:
Arsenal v Norwich City - 18:00
AFC Bournemouth v Newcastle United - 18:00
Everton v Leicester City - 18:00
West Ham United v Chelsea - 20:15
Thursday July 2 2020:
Sheffield United v Tottenham Hotspur - 18:00
Manchester City v Liverpool - 20:15
All local times.
Saturday June 27 2020:
Aston Villa v Wolverhampton Wanderers - 12:30
Sunday June 28 2020:
Watford v Southampton - 16:30
Monday June 29 2020:
Crystal Palace v Burnley - 20:00
Tuesday June 30 2020:
Brighton & Hove Albion v Manchester United - 20:15
Wednesday July 1 2020:
Arsenal v Norwich City - 18:00
AFC Bournemouth v Newcastle United - 18:00
Everton v Leicester City - 18:00
West Ham United v Chelsea - 20:15
Thursday July 2 2020:
Sheffield United v Tottenham Hotspur - 18:00
Manchester City v Liverpool - 20:15
All local times.
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Jezza, do you have an idea from past seasons what we should expect from here?
With the title decided, will Liverpool "play the kids" and have worse results? Or will they play with freedom and maintain their form?
What about Man. City, who are still clear favourites for next season's PL title? Will CL be a distraction?
How will CL qualification and PL relegation chances affect motivation and results of other clubs?
With the title decided, will Liverpool "play the kids" and have worse results? Or will they play with freedom and maintain their form?
What about Man. City, who are still clear favourites for next season's PL title? Will CL be a distraction?
How will CL qualification and PL relegation chances affect motivation and results of other clubs?
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^ You may have partially answered your own question. Liverpool just lost 4-0 to Manchester City though they played a strong first 11.
It remains to be seen whether Manchester City can participate in the CL next season, due to the current ban relating to FFP breaches. They have an ageing squad and questions will linger whether the likes of Kevin De Bruyne will want to stay on at the club. If Guardiola remains at the club next season, that will take him into a fifth season which is the longest he's managed at one club. I think he will stay next season, but then jump to either PSG, Juventus or back to Barcelona.
Motivation for CL qualification and to avoid PL relegation will be through the roof most clubs.
In relation to CL qualification, I think it comes to down four teams (Leicester, Chelsea, Manchester United and Wolves).
In relation to PL relegation, generally you need 40 points on average to avoid relegation which is what the top 14 sides have now achieved. Currently we have Norwich clearly on the bottom with 21 points and teams positioned between 15th to 19th are only separated by 6 points.
It remains to be seen whether Manchester City can participate in the CL next season, due to the current ban relating to FFP breaches. They have an ageing squad and questions will linger whether the likes of Kevin De Bruyne will want to stay on at the club. If Guardiola remains at the club next season, that will take him into a fifth season which is the longest he's managed at one club. I think he will stay next season, but then jump to either PSG, Juventus or back to Barcelona.
Motivation for CL qualification and to avoid PL relegation will be through the roof most clubs.
In relation to CL qualification, I think it comes to down four teams (Leicester, Chelsea, Manchester United and Wolves).
In relation to PL relegation, generally you need 40 points on average to avoid relegation which is what the top 14 sides have now achieved. Currently we have Norwich clearly on the bottom with 21 points and teams positioned between 15th to 19th are only separated by 6 points.
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Weekend and Midweek Results:
Saturday June 27 2020:
Aston Villa 0-1 Wolverhampton Wanderers
Sunday June 28 2020:
Watford 1-3 Southampton
Monday June 29 2020:
Crystal Palace 0-1 Burnley
Tuesday June 30 2020:
Brighton & Hove Albion 0-3 Manchester United
Wednesday July 1 2020:
Arsenal 4-0 Norwich City
AFC Bournemouth 1-4 Newcastle United
Everton 2-1 Leicester City
West Ham United 3-2 Chelsea
Thursday July 2 2020:
Sheffield United 3-1 Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool
The Ladder:
1. Liverpool 86 - Played 32
2. Man City 66 - Played 32
3. Leicester 55 - Played 32
4. Chelsea 54 - Played 32
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5. Man Utd 52 - Played 32
6. Wolves 52 - Played 32
7. Sheffield Utd 47 - Played 32
8. Arsenal 46 - Played 32
9. Tottenham 45 - Played 32
10. Burnley 45 - Played 32
11. Everton 44 - Played 32
12. Crystal Palace 42 - Played 32
13. Newcastle 42 - Played 32
14. Southampton 40 - Played 32
15. Brighton 33 - Played 32
16. West Ham 30 - Played 32
17. Watford 28 - Played 32
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18. Aston Villa 27 - Played 32
18. Bournemouth 27 - Played 32
20. Norwich 21 - Played 32
Saturday June 27 2020:
Aston Villa 0-1 Wolverhampton Wanderers
Sunday June 28 2020:
Watford 1-3 Southampton
Monday June 29 2020:
Crystal Palace 0-1 Burnley
Tuesday June 30 2020:
Brighton & Hove Albion 0-3 Manchester United
Wednesday July 1 2020:
Arsenal 4-0 Norwich City
AFC Bournemouth 1-4 Newcastle United
Everton 2-1 Leicester City
West Ham United 3-2 Chelsea
Thursday July 2 2020:
Sheffield United 3-1 Tottenham Hotspur
Manchester City 4-0 Liverpool
The Ladder:
1. Liverpool 86 - Played 32
2. Man City 66 - Played 32
3. Leicester 55 - Played 32
4. Chelsea 54 - Played 32
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5. Man Utd 52 - Played 32
6. Wolves 52 - Played 32
7. Sheffield Utd 47 - Played 32
8. Arsenal 46 - Played 32
9. Tottenham 45 - Played 32
10. Burnley 45 - Played 32
11. Everton 44 - Played 32
12. Crystal Palace 42 - Played 32
13. Newcastle 42 - Played 32
14. Southampton 40 - Played 32
15. Brighton 33 - Played 32
16. West Ham 30 - Played 32
17. Watford 28 - Played 32
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18. Aston Villa 27 - Played 32
18. Bournemouth 27 - Played 32
20. Norwich 21 - Played 32
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Weekend Matches:
Saturday July 4 2020:
Norwich City v Brighton & Hove Albion - 12:30
Leicester City v Crystal Palace - 15:00
Manchester United v AFC Bournemouth - 15:00
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Arsenal - 17:30
Chelsea v Watford - 20:00
Sunday July 5 2020:
Burnley v Sheffield United - 12:00
Newcastle United v West Ham United - 14:15
Liverpool v Aston Villa - 16:30
Southampton v Manchester City - 19:00
Monday July 6 2020:
Tottenham Hotspur v Everton - 20:00
All local times.
Saturday July 4 2020:
Norwich City v Brighton & Hove Albion - 12:30
Leicester City v Crystal Palace - 15:00
Manchester United v AFC Bournemouth - 15:00
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Arsenal - 17:30
Chelsea v Watford - 20:00
Sunday July 5 2020:
Burnley v Sheffield United - 12:00
Newcastle United v West Ham United - 14:15
Liverpool v Aston Villa - 16:30
Southampton v Manchester City - 19:00
Monday July 6 2020:
Tottenham Hotspur v Everton - 20:00
All local times.
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And Man. City followed up by losing to Southampton!Jezza wrote:... Liverpool just lost 4-0 to Manchester City though they played a strong first 11.
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(This result earned me a coffee. If I'd been less timid, it could have earned me more than that.)
Liverpool are reported to have "laboured" to a win at home against Aston Villa. Maybe the end of the season can't come fast enough for them.
Man. Utd. are supposedly the form team at the moment.
"Tottenham duo Hugo Lloris and Son Heung-min had to be separated by teammates during a confrontation at halftime of a 1-0 victory over Everton...
As the shouting goalkeeper Lloris pushed Son, Giovani Lo Celso and Harry Winks intervened to split the clashing teammates on the field before they headed into the dressing room.
Just before the break, Son lost the ball which led to Richarlison having a chance to equalise but striking wide."
(AP)
As the shouting goalkeeper Lloris pushed Son, Giovani Lo Celso and Harry Winks intervened to split the clashing teammates on the field before they headed into the dressing room.
Just before the break, Son lost the ball which led to Richarlison having a chance to equalise but striking wide."
(AP)
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Weekend Matches:
Saturday July 4 2020:
Norwich City 0-1 Brighton & Hove Albion
Leicester City 3-0 Crystal Palace
Manchester United 5-2 AFC Bournemouth
Wolverhampton Wanderers 0-2 Arsenal
Chelsea 3-0 Watford
Sunday July 5 2020:
Burnley 1-1 Sheffield United
Newcastle United 2-2 West Ham United
Liverpool 2-0 Aston Villa
Southampton 1-0 Manchester City
Monday July 6 2020:
Tottenham Hotspur 1-0 Everton
The Ladder:
1. Liverpool 89 - Played 33
2. Man City 66 - Played 33
3. Leicester 58 - Played 33
4. Chelsea 57 - Played 33
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5. Man Utd 55 - Played 33
6. Wolves 52 - Played 33
7. Arsenal 49 - Played 33
8. Tottenham 48 - Played 33
9. Sheffield Utd 48 - Played 33
10. Burnley 46 - Played 33
11. Everton 44 - Played 33
12. Newcastle 43 - Played 33
13. Southampton 43 - Played 33
14. Crystal Palace 42 - Played 33
15. Brighton 36 - Played 33
16. West Ham 31 - Played 33
17. Watford 28 - Played 33
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18. Aston Villa 27 - Played 33
18. Bournemouth 27 - Played 33
20. Norwich 21 - Played 33
Saturday July 4 2020:
Norwich City 0-1 Brighton & Hove Albion
Leicester City 3-0 Crystal Palace
Manchester United 5-2 AFC Bournemouth
Wolverhampton Wanderers 0-2 Arsenal
Chelsea 3-0 Watford
Sunday July 5 2020:
Burnley 1-1 Sheffield United
Newcastle United 2-2 West Ham United
Liverpool 2-0 Aston Villa
Southampton 1-0 Manchester City
Monday July 6 2020:
Tottenham Hotspur 1-0 Everton
The Ladder:
1. Liverpool 89 - Played 33
2. Man City 66 - Played 33
3. Leicester 58 - Played 33
4. Chelsea 57 - Played 33
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5. Man Utd 55 - Played 33
6. Wolves 52 - Played 33
7. Arsenal 49 - Played 33
8. Tottenham 48 - Played 33
9. Sheffield Utd 48 - Played 33
10. Burnley 46 - Played 33
11. Everton 44 - Played 33
12. Newcastle 43 - Played 33
13. Southampton 43 - Played 33
14. Crystal Palace 42 - Played 33
15. Brighton 36 - Played 33
16. West Ham 31 - Played 33
17. Watford 28 - Played 33
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18. Aston Villa 27 - Played 33
18. Bournemouth 27 - Played 33
20. Norwich 21 - Played 33
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Midweek Matches:
Tuesday July 7 2020:
Crystal Palace v Chelsea - 18:00
Watford v Norwich City - 18:00
Arsenal v Leicester City - 20:15
Wednesday July 8 2020:
Manchester City vs Newcastle United - 18:00
Sheffield United v Wolverhampton Wanderers - 18:00
West Ham United v Burnley - 18:00
Brighton & Hove Albion v Liverpool - 20:15
Thursday July 9 2020:
AFC Bournemouth v Tottenham Hotspur - 18:00
Everton v Southampton - 18:00
Aston Villa v Manchester United - 20:15
All local times.
Tuesday July 7 2020:
Crystal Palace v Chelsea - 18:00
Watford v Norwich City - 18:00
Arsenal v Leicester City - 20:15
Wednesday July 8 2020:
Manchester City vs Newcastle United - 18:00
Sheffield United v Wolverhampton Wanderers - 18:00
West Ham United v Burnley - 18:00
Brighton & Hove Albion v Liverpool - 20:15
Thursday July 9 2020:
AFC Bournemouth v Tottenham Hotspur - 18:00
Everton v Southampton - 18:00
Aston Villa v Manchester United - 20:15
All local times.
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Chelsea have conceded 46 goals (av. 1.35 per game) this season. It's been a recurring problem under Frank but at least our attacking prowess has covered it this season.K wrote:Lots of goals in Crystal Palace vs. Chelsea!
Do they have weak defences?
On the other hand, the teams around Chelsea have stronger defences. Liverpool have conceded 25, Manchester City 34, Leicester City 32, Manchester United 33, Wolves 36 and Sheffield United 33.
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One thing that's initially surprising is the low percentage of draws in EPL, and the even smaller percentage of 0-0 draws. (I haven't found the number for this season but it must be very low.)
I wonder why that is. Mismatches would help, but maybe they're also very good at converting chances. There should be data on that too (expected goals vs. actual goals, etc.).
I wonder why that is. Mismatches would help, but maybe they're also very good at converting chances. There should be data on that too (expected goals vs. actual goals, etc.).
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Midweek Results:
Tuesday July 7 2020:
Crystal Palace 2-3 Chelsea
Watford 2-1 Norwich City
Arsenal 1-1 Leicester City
Wednesday July 8 2020:
Manchester City 5-0 Newcastle United
Sheffield United 1-0 Wolverhampton Wanderers
West Ham United 0-1 Burnley
Brighton & Hove Albion 1-3 Liverpool
Thursday July 9 2020:
AFC Bournemouth 0-0 Tottenham Hotspur
Everton 1-1 Southampton
Aston Villa 0-3 Manchester United
The Ladder:
1. Liverpool 92 - Played 34
2. Man City 69 - Played 34
3. Chelsea 60 - Played 34
4. Leicester 59 - Played 34
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5. Man Utd 58 - Played 34
6. Wolves 52 - Played 34
7. Sheffield Utd 51 - Played 34
8. Arsenal 50 - Played 34
9. Tottenham 49 - Played 34
10. Burnley 49 - Played 34
11. Everton 45 - Played 34
12. Southampton 44 - Played 34
13. Newcastle 43 - Played 34
14. Crystal Palace 42 - Played 34
15. Brighton 36 - Played 34
16. West Ham 31 - Played 34
17. Watford 31 - Played 34
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18. Bournemouth 28 - Played 34
19. Aston Villa 27 - Played 34
20. Norwich 21 - Played 34
Tuesday July 7 2020:
Crystal Palace 2-3 Chelsea
Watford 2-1 Norwich City
Arsenal 1-1 Leicester City
Wednesday July 8 2020:
Manchester City 5-0 Newcastle United
Sheffield United 1-0 Wolverhampton Wanderers
West Ham United 0-1 Burnley
Brighton & Hove Albion 1-3 Liverpool
Thursday July 9 2020:
AFC Bournemouth 0-0 Tottenham Hotspur
Everton 1-1 Southampton
Aston Villa 0-3 Manchester United
The Ladder:
1. Liverpool 92 - Played 34
2. Man City 69 - Played 34
3. Chelsea 60 - Played 34
4. Leicester 59 - Played 34
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5. Man Utd 58 - Played 34
6. Wolves 52 - Played 34
7. Sheffield Utd 51 - Played 34
8. Arsenal 50 - Played 34
9. Tottenham 49 - Played 34
10. Burnley 49 - Played 34
11. Everton 45 - Played 34
12. Southampton 44 - Played 34
13. Newcastle 43 - Played 34
14. Crystal Palace 42 - Played 34
15. Brighton 36 - Played 34
16. West Ham 31 - Played 34
17. Watford 31 - Played 34
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18. Bournemouth 28 - Played 34
19. Aston Villa 27 - Played 34
20. Norwich 21 - Played 34
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Weekend Matches:
Saturday July 11 2020:
Norwich City v West Ham United - 12:30
Watford v Newcastle United - 12:30
Liverpool v Burnley - 15:00
Sheffield United v Chelsea - 17:30
Brighton & Hove Albion v Manchester City - 20:00
Sunday July 12 2020:
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Everton - 12:00
Aston Villa v Crystal Palace - 14:15
Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal - 16:30
AFC Bournemouth v Leicester City - 19:00
Monday July 13 2020:
Manchester United v Southampton - 20:00
All local times.
Saturday July 11 2020:
Norwich City v West Ham United - 12:30
Watford v Newcastle United - 12:30
Liverpool v Burnley - 15:00
Sheffield United v Chelsea - 17:30
Brighton & Hove Albion v Manchester City - 20:00
Sunday July 12 2020:
Wolverhampton Wanderers v Everton - 12:00
Aston Villa v Crystal Palace - 14:15
Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal - 16:30
AFC Bournemouth v Leicester City - 19:00
Monday July 13 2020:
Manchester United v Southampton - 20:00
All local times.
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