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What'sinaname wrote: I get not going to the beach when you are targetting zero, but now, it's about stopping indoor transmission (workplaces and homes). Surely the low risk of outdoor transmission doesn't outweigh the mental benefits of being outside and at the beach.
Not Until we hit at least 70% Fully Vaccinations going by the Roadmap the Goverment has given out
We have had a tiny few number of cases of outdoor transmission, all of those to my knowledge in crowd situations.

People laying on a beach 3 metres from another person is more likely to be struck by a meteorite than catching covid .

Lockdowns may be essential in restricting infections while vaccinations ramp up, but compliance with stupid rules is rapidly declining as people are sick of it.
Then they just making sure we stay in Lockdown long as Possible.

They also can't Blame anyone else IF they get Covid
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The ol' empire to the rescue:

Australia says it has secured an extra four million doses of the Pfizer vaccine from the UK in a swap deal.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-58431190
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Thanks Sandra Sully
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Looking at the UK and Israel experiences, I suggest everyone be prepared for getting infected and be double vaxxed to minimise the risk of hospitalisation and death.
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Pies4shaw wrote:I'm not making some political point - it was just always stupid to assume that the virus wouldn't ever be problematic for young people. Now they've realized quite how stupid that was, young people are waiting ages to get the vaccine that is suitable for them and being forced to take one that we all know is unsuitable because the alternative is too dangerous to contemplate.
But it wasn't 'always stupid' was it? It's a dynamic situation and you're dealing with competing and changing priorities. Original goal was to vaccinate vulnerable groups which is why older age groups were prioritised. This is not the same as assuming that the virus wouldn't ever be problematic for young people. When you've got limited supply and a less transmissible variant that prioritisation makes perfect sense and most of that group is now vaccinated and relatively safe. The increased transmissability of delta (understandably unforeseen) increases the urgency of vaccinating younger, more mobile populations and, higher case numbers change the cost-benefit balance around using AZ. I'm no fan of Morrison and think the Andrews government made some major blunders managing the first wave in particular, but people are expecting miracles from government here.
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In Victoria:
Reported yesterday: 190 new local cases and 0 new cases acquired overseas.
- 35,464 vaccine doses were administered
- 49,548 test results were received

Of the 190 new local cases, 103 are linked to known cases and outbreaks. Further case information will be provided this morning.
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What'sinaname wrote:Looking at the UK and Israel experiences, I suggest everyone be prepared for getting infected and be double vaxxed to minimise the risk of hospitalisation and death.
if only people would realise this, but they want promises and miracles no one can give
nomadjack wrote:
Original goal was to vaccinate vulnerable groups which is why older age groups were prioritised. This is not the same as assuming that the virus wouldn't ever be problematic for young people. When you've got limited supply and a less transmissible variant that prioritisation makes perfect sense and most of that group is now vaccinated and relatively safe. The increased transmissability of delta (understandably unforeseen) increases the urgency of vaccinating younger, more mobile populations and, higher case numbers change the cost-benefit balance around using AZ. I'm no fan of Morrison and think the Andrews government made some major blunders managing the first wave in particular, but people are expecting miracles from government here.
totally agree,
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From NSW Health's twitter:
NSW recorded 1,533 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night.
One new case was acquired overseas in the 24 hours to 8pm last night. The total number of cases in NSW since the beginning of the pandemic is 32,134.

Sadly, NSW Health has been notified of the deaths of four people who had COVID-19.
Of the 1,533 locally acquired cases reported to 8pm last night, 512 are from Western Sydney Local Health District (LHD), 494 are from South Western Sydney LHD, 150 are from Sydney LHD, 122 are from South Eastern Sydney LHD, 90 are from Nepean Blue Mountains LHD, 38 are from Western NSW LHD, 36 are from Northern Sydney LHD, 17 are from Illawarra Shoalhaven LHD, 15 are from Central Coast LHD, 15 are from Hunter New England LHD, 13 are in correctional settings, nine are from Far West LHD, and 22 cases are yet to be assigned to an LHD.
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And a bit more detail on Victoria's situation, from the current presser (via the ABC blog):
Victoria recorded 190 cases of COVID-19 overnight, all of them locally acquired and 103 are linked to known outbreaks, while 15 are being investigated.

Of the cases, 103 were in isolation for their entire infectious period, bringing the active total in Victoria to 701.

76 people are currently in hospital, 23 are in ICU, with 14 of those people on ventilators. None of those hospitalised are fully vaccinated.
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think positive wrote:
What'sinaname wrote:Looking at the UK and Israel experiences, I suggest everyone be prepared for getting infected and be double vaxxed to minimise the risk of hospitalisation and death.
if only people would realise this, but they want promises and miracles no one can give
Exactly, it's a pandemic. To think anyone can stop an unseen virus is fanciful. To further think that death is inevitable is even more foolish. We have to accept that more people will die.

So, it's up to us to do the right thing....get vaxxed, socially distance ourselves and wear masks. I favour some restrictions, especially around indoor activities and preventing large crowds in close proximity, but we should be looking to sensible rules now that reduces the risk, but doesn't eliminate them. Go and play tennis when you are on the opposite side of a tennis court, go mountain biking, bushwalking, play golf, go swimming at the beach.
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From the ABC blog:
Victoria's COVID case breakdown
96 are in the northern suburbs, including 54 in Hume which has become the biggest LGA cluster
18 in Moreland
55 in the western suburbs, including 17 in Wyndham,
14 in the south-east suburbs
11 in the inner south
6 in the City of Melbourne,
3 in the eastern suburbs,
1 on the Mornington Peninsula
4 in Shepparton
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It seems like WA isn't the only state with a struggling public health system, Victoria is on struggle St too.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 58nry.html

Our health system will break if Covid cases here follow the current trajectory to pass NSW.
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^ Is this unexpected? Not sure you can build or sustain a health system to deal with a 1 in 100 year pandemic.
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It's not the pandemic so much, but that the system is apparently already buggered without having to deal with Covid patients. That falls right back onto the state government.
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stui magpie wrote:It's not the pandemic so much, but that the system is apparently already buggered without having to deal with Covid patients. That falls right back onto the state government.
Maybe this will trigger governments to start spending money on important things rather than wasting money on art grants, political advertising, all this PC crap.
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