Coronavirus 4 - Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

[stui magpie]

I know the article is old, I said so in the post.

I'm not trying to convince anyone to get the AZ shot, I'm just sick of self entitled sooking from people who could get the AZ but want Pfizer.

I have zero interest in trying to convince anti vaxxers of anything, that's just an absolute waste of energy. Don't want it, don't get it, I'll send you photos of me sitting in a pub.

yeah i do agree on thAT, just said as much to my anti vax besttie!

I had to explain the concept to my cousin who gets very preachy on socials, she was going after people who posted anti vaxxer stuff, berating them, insulting them, etc.

I had to explain to her that she wasn't going to change their minds because of her, all she was doing was behaving like a dick and working herself into a lather for no reason.

Another cousin, an interstate truckie (which is a bit of a worry) is also a disbeliever. Not interested in getting vaccinated. He puts stuff up on social media, I just let it go through to the keeper, no point arguing, let it go. He complies with the testing requirements and gets tested something like every 3 days.

Bouncing off what P4S said, if someone is open to being educated then file, help them to form a different opinion, but in most cases it's not worth trying.

[What'sinaname]

With regional re-opening, I am expecting that Metro Melbourne people will be locked out of regional VIC until active case numbers in Melbourne are in the tens and new cases in single digit.

Can not see metro Melbourne people being allowed to visit regional Vic even after 80 / 90% double vax is reached.

[stui magpie]

^
We aren't allowed out and they aren't allowed here.

Common sense applies with not having the ring of chickenwire but every cop car checking cars randomly and asking hospitality joints in regional areas to check ID and booty out dirty Melbournians.

[Pies4shaw]

From the ABC blog:

Victorian health officials project there will be 18,000 active coronavirus cases in the state by the middle of next month.

They are preparing for a potential COVID-19 third wave that could result in 800 people needing to be hospitalised.

There were 221 new infections recorded today, taking the number of active cases to just under 2,000.

The health department figures shared with the ABC are based on projections, not modelling and are being used to help hospitals prepare.

To try to put that into a useful frame of reference, NSW had about 18,000 active cases on 31 August, so I guess that if Victoria is planning for that by the middle of next month, that means Victorian health authorities think Victoria is about 6 weeks behind NSW.

[eddiesmith]

It’s still funny to see people complaining of the government buying too much AZ and not enough Pfizer as if the government was supposed to know before any vaccine was ever shown to be viable or effective what was going to happen.

[Pies4shaw]

Hilarious.

[Pies4shaw]

In Victoria:

Reported yesterday: 324 new local cases and 1 case acquired overseas (currently in HQ).
- 37,604 vaccines administered
- 54,242 test results received

Of the 324 local cases, 107 have so far been linked to known cases and outbreaks. Further case information will be provided this morning.

This is going well.

[KenH]

In Victoria:

Reported yesterday: 324 new local cases and 1 case acquired overseas (currently in HQ).
- 37,604 vaccines administered
- 54,242 test results received

Of the 324 local cases, 107 have so far been linked to known cases and outbreaks. Further case information will be provided this morning.

This is going well.

I think you left out "not"

Effing hell

[Pies4shaw]

^ Yes, perhaps I should have added the "shocked" emoticon to emphasise the sarcasm.

If people want to find a positive (there aren't too many, really), it is true that testing numbers were up by about 25% (so that accounts for a portion of the increase over yesterday) and the positive test percentage is up but only slightly - it's 0.6%, which is to say that only 3 in every 500 people being tested are returning positives. The numbers are going the wrong way but there is still not widespread infection in the community.

Once again, what this actually means depends upon where the new cases are and who they are and we won't get that detail until the press conference.

[stui magpie]

1 day doesn't make a trend, we'll have to wait and see if this is the end of the semi plateau we'd been on or just a blip.

Either way, it should put an exclamation mark on the sentence that we aren't going to achieve Covid Zero, we need to vaccinate our way out.

[KenH]

[quote="Pies4shaw"]^ Yes, perhaps I should have added the "shocked" emoticon to emphasise the sarcasm.



Nah I knew what you meant, we have lost control of this.

[What'sinaname]

Here are some stats from the CDC up to May 2021

They estimate 1 in 4.2 COVID infections were reported in the US. That means, the US had (between Feb 2020 and May 2021)

120.2 million infections
6.2 million hospitalisations
767,000 deaths (estimated at 30% higher than than what is reported)

The survival rate of someone infected with COVID 99.36%. That rate increases form anyone under 65 as 80% of the deaths were people older than 65.

[Pies4shaw]

That's not changed much, although it's a bit higher than their early estimates. I recall looking at the data they had last year and they were then postulating an infection-fatality rate of about .25%. I also recall reverse-calculating the actual number of cases from their fatality reports and posting that the "official" reports were under-enumerating infections by a factor of about 4.

Meanwhile:

NSW recorded 1,405 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night.

The total number of cases in NSW since the beginning of the pandemic is 38,919.

Sadly, NSW Health has been notified of the deaths of five people who had COVID-19.

There have been 153 COVID-19 related deaths in NSW since 16 June 2021, and 209 in total since the start of the pandemic.

There have been 33,296 locally acquired cases reported since 16 June 2021, when the first case in this outbreak was reported.

There are currently 1,175 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospital, with 202 people in intensive care, 80 of whom require ventilation.

The positive test rate dropped a bit in NSW yesterday. That may be a good thing.

[stui magpie]

^

And daily case numbers seem to have plateaued. If they can hold at this level for another week, we may see it start to go down.

[eddiesmith]

Now 1300 cases ahead of NSW at the same stage of their outbreak.

Took NSW 51 days to get over 300 cases in 1 day, Day 36 for Victoria