Climate change

[think positive]

This pic! See happy thread, it’s on the channel 10 news on the weather segment!!

[stui magpie]

I'm removing my self ban as it's clear that the drought is broken.

I was heading up to Toc this weekend, but there's been 36mm of rain in the 48 hours up to 9am today and it's going to be fkn freezing, so my chances of doing yard work are nil. I'm staying here.

To put that 36mm in context, the average rainfall for April in Toc over 120 years is 32mm. So far this month they've had 88mm. Today's rainfall gets recorded as 1 May but otherwise would be over 100mm (April 2019 was 5mm)

Melbourne has already exceeded the annual average rainfall apparently and we're not quite in May. The Indian Dipole that drove the hot dry weather through 2019 has gone and farmers and water storage is the recipient.

If you don't know what the Indian Dipole is, you may or may not heard of the El Nino and La Nina https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/ninonina.html

The Indian Dipole is like the Indian Ocean equivalent, it just hasn't got much press on the Eastern seaboard


https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-50602971

[Skids]

We had a warm few days in Perth last week.
One of the breaking stories on the 6 oçlock news was "Perth COULD have it's warmest November minimum on record". Reporters on the coast showing swimmers in the background while they spun what might happen over night... it didn't and we didn't hear another word on the subject.

So I looked at the November averages taken in Perth this year and compared them to last year (which I did the year before and found November 2021 was cooler than 2020).

Yet again, November averages have continued their downward trend.
This year, the average max of 25.5 is 0.6 less than last year and the min average is 1.0 degree cooler... imagine if those figures were reversed and the average was higher... Good Lord, we would have had greens glueing themselves to the freeway.

After the first week and a bit of December, our highest temp in Perth has been 31.7... 12 months ago there'd been 5 days warmer with a peak of 40.

No 6pm headlines?

[What'sinaname]

They tried global warming....

until they realised the facts didn't support that.

So they went with climate change, which is a real peach as the climate always changes. That's the thing about the climate. It changes.

[watt price tully]

Yes no such thing as climate change.
The moon landing was a hoax
The earth is flat.
The COVID vaccinations don’t work & are linked to 5G
Daniel Andrews only wanted mandatory masks because he was in a financial relationship with the Chinese
Vapour trails and tin hats

[roar]

^^ Tobacco didn't cause any health issues, either.

[Skids]

Hey, I'm just stating some facts.

And like I said, if the temperature average for November had of increased by the same value it has decreased over the last 3 years, it would be an "unprecedented catastrophe".

[Skids]

Yes no such thing as climate change.
The moon landing was a hoax
The earth is flat.
The COVID vaccinations don’t work & are linked to 5G
Daniel Andrews only wanted mandatory masks because he was in a financial relationship with the Chinese
Vapour trails and tin hats

It's funny, reading the book Sapiens and this is exactly what's described. Convincing humans of something, it's happened all through history.

To enable humans to co-exist, we need a belief or something we can trust, a myth will do, as long as they can convince a large portion of the population to follow a story, it will become the accepted way.

[watt price tully]

Hey, I'm just stating some facts.

….".

No, you were stating a (limited) observation. We were simply putting your subjective observations into a context or a pattern.

[Skids]

So December in Perth was one of the coolest I can remember. Not one day even close to the old 100 (37.8 ). The highest temp for the month being just 36.
Maximum temp average 2.3 degrees cooler and minimum average 1.2 degrees cooler than 2021... no headlines.

[Pies4shaw]

That's got nothing to do with climate change. The concern is about increasing average global temperatures, not what it was like in your town. It's been quite cool here, too - although I put that down at least partly to the air-conditioning.

[watt price tully]

So December in Perth was one of the coolest I can remember. Not one day even close to the old 100 (37.8 ). The highest temp for the month being just 36.
Maximum temp average 2.3 degrees cooler and minimum average 1.2 degrees cooler than 2021... no headlines.

And therefore what exactly?

There is no such thing as climate change?
That temperatures must always be linear?

[Pies4shaw]

[Pies4shaw]

The International Chamber of Commerce (sacrcely - and I shouldn't really have to say this - a left-leaning organization) has just released the following commissioned report. There's a download link on the page, in case anyone is interested.

https://iccwbo.org/news-publications/po ... o-document