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First quarter and a half was very good but we didn’t put it all on the scoreboard.
I think we played a conserving brand of footy in the second half. We can play at different tempos and control the game in different ways which is a hallmark of a top team.
Darcy Cameron returning was big. Having him and Cox makes us much stronger.
I think we played a conserving brand of footy in the second half. We can play at different tempos and control the game in different ways which is a hallmark of a top team.
Darcy Cameron returning was big. Having him and Cox makes us much stronger.
Daicos, impossible angle ... Goal!
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Strong start in the first half and it seemed to be the difference in the end?
Strong start in the first half and it seemed to be the difference in the end?
The performance by Darcy Moore was marvellous."Yeah, I said to the group just then, you don't realise at half time, but the work done at half time is the end result. You just never know how games are going to progress, but I think the way we set the game up in the first half is obviously the reason why we got the job done".
Is Moore the best key defender in the competition?"Yeah, remarkable. At times you think he was the forward, like he just out reads the opposition and he's playing on incredible players. They're no mugs in the game and he just out position and he just had a day out didn't he?"
Can you tell us about Moore's match up with Curnow? How did you plan for that during the week?"I haven't seen everyone. We haven't played everybody. You love your own more than others I suppose. The way he's playing right now is at the top of his game for sure".
Did you intend to play on and get speed on the game early?"You always think of your threats, and those two [Curnow and McKay] are considerable threats. We don't have a second tall at the moment, we're playing undersize with Murphy and Maynard and these guys. You have concerns around [that], 'have we got the height to go with Harry [McKay]'. Ideally, we put pressure on the ball and it's less of an issue for us, but Curnow is a great forward of the game. He's athletic, and he jumps at the ball so we thought that was a good matchup for Darcy [Moore]. Again, if they get high we wanna have certain match ups and if they're deep we want to have certain match ups. It wasn't something going into the game going, 'he must play on so and so'. It was really pleasing to come out on top of that match up".
Last week, GWS coach Adam Kingsley said you're one of the best teams in in the competition stopping a team from scoring when the momentum is with them. You seemed to do that again today in the 3rd quarter when Carlton were coming at you and they only kicked a single goal?"I think we do that most weeks. We do like to use our numbers up if we can and then challenge the opposition. We're a fast starting team. I think the Crows were the #1 [fast] starting team in the competition for first quarters and we've had a similar record over the season, so we want to hit the ground running. This group is hard to stop when they move the ball fast".
Can you talk us through the late changes? Was that because of the flu issues around Jack Ginnivan midweek or was it something you were always considering?"Yeah, I was really pleased with that. I said that at 3QT, the arm wrestle of games that comes. They [Carlton] did have moments off territory and whether it's free kicks or lost clearance, whatever it looked like. The game was played in our defensive half more than it was in the first half. To keep the opposition to low numbers. We can't choose or pick when they miss goals, but we can definitely decide or force them into positions where they're having shots from wide or whatever it looks like. It is a pleasing part of our game that teams haven't got momentum on us too much in recent time".
Were Ginnivan and Ash Johnson close to missing due to illness?"We were calculated thinking on Friday when we finalised the team that we thought we don't necessarily need to name him in the team. The rules allow you to name your squad, and we'll just make that late change accordingly. It wasn't weather based. We were just waiting to see whether Jack was going to be fit and well and then we had other options up our sleeve. We thought we'd bring Darcy [Cameron] into our starting 22".
How did you see Darcy Cameron's first game back in the team?"Potentially. They had to prove themselves on Saturday. Friday afternoon, they hadn't trained and we're just looking for them to get better. To that point, they probably were [a chance of missing]".
The mark by Ash Johnson was a big one in the second quarter?"He's important to us. It allows Ash Johnson to stay forward more and then we'll have Dan McStay back in a couple of weeks and Billy Frampton back in a couple of weeks. You then get bigger bodies to be able to then play a certain way. I said this last week, in adversity and injury we've got players that play multiple roles now, so we've got some flexibility amongst that".
Do you turn your mind to players that are coming back such as Jeremy Howe and how the team might look in the future?"Yeah, we want our players to express themselves. Have you seen my shoes? Tarni Jarvis who designed our jumpers asked us if we want to wear the shoes or if we could the paint the shoes and they tell a story around family. I said before the game to the boys, 'every time you look at my shoes, make sure you express yourself and it was pleasing that Ash [Johnson] did that".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOi_J9x1o0U"Every week tends to change and shift, so it's hard to forecast too far. We'll probably get Lipinski back, Billy Frampton and Dan McStay. Those guys will be back around two or three weeks [from now]. They're in our best 22. It's just a matter of what that looks like and moving parts of that. Every week changes, from illness and injury".
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The MCG saw Collingwood's evolving rivalry with Carlton continue on Sunday afternoon, and the Magpies were able to put the Blues to the sword early in the first half to set up their victory by 28 points. For the first two quarters, the Woods capitalised on their opportunities in front of goal, while diminishing Carlton's prospects of scoring substantially to open a game-high lead of 44 points, before scoring in the second half dried up between the two sides as the game drew to its inevitable conclusion.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from sources such as kicks by +1 (205 - 204), contested possessions were won by +4 (131 - 127), intercept possessions had a margin of +3 (74 - 71), while centre clearances were up by +4 ( 12 - 8 ), and Tackles Inside 50 were won narrowly by +2 (12 - 10). Marks went in favour of the Magpies by +14 (93 - 79), with uncontested marks claimed by +13 (79 - 66), while contested marks had a differential of +1 (14 - 13), and +4 for Marks Inside 50 (13 - 9). Carlton won their statistical markers from disposals by +22 (374 - 352), +23 for handballs (170 - 147), uncontested possessions were won by +22 (237 - 215), while clearances had a margin of +8 ( 38 - 30 ), and stoppage clearances had an advantage of + 12 ( 30 - 18 ). Both sides had stalemates in three categories. They were from hit-outs (30 each), tackles (57 apiece), and Inside 50s (all square at 51).
Josh Daicos (27 disposals @ 74%, 680 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 23 uncontested possessions, 18 kicks, 9 handballs, 9 marks, 4 tackles, 5 score involvements, 2 clearances, 3 Inside 50s, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) started the game behind the ball in defence, before being shifted up to his customary role and position halfway during the first quarter. Josh covered plenty of ground to make himself a marking option for his teammates at half-back or on the wing, and gained significant territory from his kicks to give his team great field position.
Jordan De Goey (27 disposals @ 74%, 315 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 18 handballs, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 5 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 5 Inside 50s) had his influence nullified, but still contributed to the outcome of the game with his contested ball work, clearances and forward entries.
Tom Mitchell (26 disposals @ 65%, 399 metres gained, 15 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 12 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements, 8 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) was one of many contributors in Collingwood's midfield, with contested possessions at a high level, clearance numbers were benefical, especially centre clearances, of which he provides a point of difference to how the team functions. Mitchell was then able to produce territory with his possessions, despite making glaring errors that he will work on before the North Melbourne game.
Steele Sidebottom (23 disposals @ 74%, 332 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 12 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 2 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) linked up transition or stoppage plays by releasing handpasses to teammates in a continuous motion, while looking to kick to a spare teammate or contest when it was time for him to execute under pressure.
Scott Pendlebury (21 disposals @ 71%, 291 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 9 handballs, 5 marks, 8 tackles, 2 goal assists, 6 score involvements, 2 clearances & 6 Inside 50s) maximised his impact with minimal possessions by creating goals or scoring opportunities for his team, while taking marks to maintain possession, and laying tackles to thwart any threat that Carlton may have posed on the contest.
Nick Daicos (27 disposals @ 78%, 412 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 15 handballs, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 8 Rebound 50s) was relatively quiet in the first half, before breathing life into his game in the last two quarters. Nick had a few stints in the midfield to get his hands on the ball, which didn't eventuate as freely as he may've liked. Once the Blues started missing goals frequently in the second half, Nick was able to use the ball from kick-ins and pump it long to a contest, where a mark or forced stoppage would occur every time.
John Noble (25 disposals @ 80%, 494 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 18 kicks, 7 handballs, 7 marks, 4 tackles, 6 score involvements & 6 Rebound 50s) generated significant drive from the last line of defence by running off his opponent to receive handballs and kick to his team's advantage coming out of defence. Noble is one of the key instigators in the team's ball movement when it is time to switch the ball, or looking for the corridor which opens up Collingwood's runners towards goal whenever Noble hits those targets.
Darcy Moore (25 disposals @ 84%, 359 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 17 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 8 handballs, 12 marks, 6 contested marks, 4 tackles, 4 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 8 Rebound 50s) was the best and most influential player on the ground with his aerial talents saving Collingwood from conceding numerous goals, while maintaining possession accurately and effectively.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (16 disposals @ 62%, 422 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 13 kicks, 3 handballs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) ran up to the wing from half-forward to take his marks and win his possesssions, from where he would conjure territory and forward entries to his teammates further afield to produce scoring opportunities.
Jamie Elliott (11 disposals @ 64%, 192 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 3 Tackles Inside 50, 5 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) contributed without dominating. Elliott's tackling pressure kept him involved, while being a lead-up player at the footy with his marking, before chiming in with a goal in the second term.
Brody Mihocek (10 disposals @ 90%, 216 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 8 marks, 2 contested marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 2 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 6 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 4 goals) was the pick of Collingwood's forwards with his vice-like grip on the ball with his marking, while converting every opportunity that came his way to set the game up for the Magpies.
Mason Cox (9 disposals @ 56%, 157 metres gained, 15 hit-outs, 4 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 2 handballs, 6 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 3 score involvements & 1 goal) maintained his strong aerial presence by taking his marks when they were on offer, chipped in with some excellent ruck work, while ending the game by kicking Collingwood's last goal in the final quarter, which had become quite dour.
Beau McCreery (9 disposals @ 149 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 5 kicks, 4 handballs, 2 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements & 1 goal) stayed busy by tackling with ferocity and intensity, got involved in a few scoring chains and all but snuffed out Carlton's fightback early in the final term with a calm snap from close range.
Collingwood's next game will be against North Melbourne on May 28 at Marvel Stadium. The Magpies will be celebrating two key milestones with Steele Sidebottom becoming the fourth player in Collingwood's history to play 300 games, while Mason Cox reaches his 100th game since debuting in 2016. North Melbourne are reeling after exceeding the interchange cap in the cruellest of losses against Sydney, so they will have a point to prove. The Woods will look at playing four quarters of the highest quality to overcome the Kangaroos and ensure that both Sidebottom and Cox enjoy a victory in their milestone games respectively.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from sources such as kicks by +1 (205 - 204), contested possessions were won by +4 (131 - 127), intercept possessions had a margin of +3 (74 - 71), while centre clearances were up by +4 ( 12 - 8 ), and Tackles Inside 50 were won narrowly by +2 (12 - 10). Marks went in favour of the Magpies by +14 (93 - 79), with uncontested marks claimed by +13 (79 - 66), while contested marks had a differential of +1 (14 - 13), and +4 for Marks Inside 50 (13 - 9). Carlton won their statistical markers from disposals by +22 (374 - 352), +23 for handballs (170 - 147), uncontested possessions were won by +22 (237 - 215), while clearances had a margin of +8 ( 38 - 30 ), and stoppage clearances had an advantage of + 12 ( 30 - 18 ). Both sides had stalemates in three categories. They were from hit-outs (30 each), tackles (57 apiece), and Inside 50s (all square at 51).
Josh Daicos (27 disposals @ 74%, 680 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 23 uncontested possessions, 18 kicks, 9 handballs, 9 marks, 4 tackles, 5 score involvements, 2 clearances, 3 Inside 50s, 3 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) started the game behind the ball in defence, before being shifted up to his customary role and position halfway during the first quarter. Josh covered plenty of ground to make himself a marking option for his teammates at half-back or on the wing, and gained significant territory from his kicks to give his team great field position.
Jordan De Goey (27 disposals @ 74%, 315 metres gained, 13 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 18 handballs, 2 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements, 5 clearances, 3 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 5 Inside 50s) had his influence nullified, but still contributed to the outcome of the game with his contested ball work, clearances and forward entries.
Tom Mitchell (26 disposals @ 65%, 399 metres gained, 15 contested possessions, 11 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 12 handballs, 3 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 5 score involvements, 8 clearances, 4 centre clearances, 4 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) was one of many contributors in Collingwood's midfield, with contested possessions at a high level, clearance numbers were benefical, especially centre clearances, of which he provides a point of difference to how the team functions. Mitchell was then able to produce territory with his possessions, despite making glaring errors that he will work on before the North Melbourne game.
Steele Sidebottom (23 disposals @ 74%, 332 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 12 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 2 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 3 Rebound 50s) linked up transition or stoppage plays by releasing handpasses to teammates in a continuous motion, while looking to kick to a spare teammate or contest when it was time for him to execute under pressure.
Scott Pendlebury (21 disposals @ 71%, 291 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 9 handballs, 5 marks, 8 tackles, 2 goal assists, 6 score involvements, 2 clearances & 6 Inside 50s) maximised his impact with minimal possessions by creating goals or scoring opportunities for his team, while taking marks to maintain possession, and laying tackles to thwart any threat that Carlton may have posed on the contest.
Nick Daicos (27 disposals @ 78%, 412 metres gained, 8 contested possessions, 19 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 12 kicks, 15 handballs, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 6 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 8 Rebound 50s) was relatively quiet in the first half, before breathing life into his game in the last two quarters. Nick had a few stints in the midfield to get his hands on the ball, which didn't eventuate as freely as he may've liked. Once the Blues started missing goals frequently in the second half, Nick was able to use the ball from kick-ins and pump it long to a contest, where a mark or forced stoppage would occur every time.
John Noble (25 disposals @ 80%, 494 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 18 kicks, 7 handballs, 7 marks, 4 tackles, 6 score involvements & 6 Rebound 50s) generated significant drive from the last line of defence by running off his opponent to receive handballs and kick to his team's advantage coming out of defence. Noble is one of the key instigators in the team's ball movement when it is time to switch the ball, or looking for the corridor which opens up Collingwood's runners towards goal whenever Noble hits those targets.
Darcy Moore (25 disposals @ 84%, 359 metres gained, 10 contested possessions, 15 uncontested possessions, 17 intercept possessions, 17 kicks, 8 handballs, 12 marks, 6 contested marks, 4 tackles, 4 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 8 Rebound 50s) was the best and most influential player on the ground with his aerial talents saving Collingwood from conceding numerous goals, while maintaining possession accurately and effectively.
Will Hoskin-Elliott (16 disposals @ 62%, 422 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 13 kicks, 3 handballs, 6 marks, 3 tackles, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 5 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) ran up to the wing from half-forward to take his marks and win his possesssions, from where he would conjure territory and forward entries to his teammates further afield to produce scoring opportunities.
Jamie Elliott (11 disposals @ 64%, 192 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 2 intercept possessions, 6 kicks, 5 handballs, 4 marks, 3 tackles, 3 Tackles Inside 50, 5 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 1 goal) contributed without dominating. Elliott's tackling pressure kept him involved, while being a lead-up player at the footy with his marking, before chiming in with a goal in the second term.
Brody Mihocek (10 disposals @ 90%, 216 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 9 kicks, 8 marks, 2 contested marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 2 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 6 score involvements, 3 Inside 50s & 4 goals) was the pick of Collingwood's forwards with his vice-like grip on the ball with his marking, while converting every opportunity that came his way to set the game up for the Magpies.
Mason Cox (9 disposals @ 56%, 157 metres gained, 15 hit-outs, 4 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 7 kicks, 2 handballs, 6 marks, 3 Marks Inside 50, 3 score involvements & 1 goal) maintained his strong aerial presence by taking his marks when they were on offer, chipped in with some excellent ruck work, while ending the game by kicking Collingwood's last goal in the final quarter, which had become quite dour.
Beau McCreery (9 disposals @ 149 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 5 kicks, 4 handballs, 2 marks, 5 tackles, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements & 1 goal) stayed busy by tackling with ferocity and intensity, got involved in a few scoring chains and all but snuffed out Carlton's fightback early in the final term with a calm snap from close range.
Collingwood's next game will be against North Melbourne on May 28 at Marvel Stadium. The Magpies will be celebrating two key milestones with Steele Sidebottom becoming the fourth player in Collingwood's history to play 300 games, while Mason Cox reaches his 100th game since debuting in 2016. North Melbourne are reeling after exceeding the interchange cap in the cruellest of losses against Sydney, so they will have a point to prove. The Woods will look at playing four quarters of the highest quality to overcome the Kangaroos and ensure that both Sidebottom and Cox enjoy a victory in their milestone games respectively.
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The head is sacrosanct unless you drop slightly or you're Jack Ginnivan, in which case- have at it. The AFL is failing in it's duty of care. I know it's a minority view but the interpretation should never have changed, the onus should always be on the tackler to apply a legal tackle, no matter how annoying it was to see Selwood get so many.shawthing wrote:A shocking decision Lazza! And as proof the whole 7 commentary team were saying the same thing. Lingy was adamant he is being persecuted by the umpires. And remember most of them were barracking for the Blues all day. No this is just a vendetta pure and simply. A disgrace. But then the AFL is run by human disgraces!
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Yes, definitely a significant drop off from last year. He's on 192 in a row and 29 years old. Likely to break Jimmy Stynes 244 consecutive in late 25 unless his form continues to drop or he decides to do a Mark Taylor and sit out a game once he reaches parity.Meredith1965 wrote:Is it just me, or has he been quieter these past few weeks ? I hope we are not beginning to hit the cliff face with Jack.Johnno75 wrote:I think he is up to 197 in a row.Jezza wrote:A remarkable statistic.
Crisp hasn't missed his game since he was traded to the club at the end of 2014.
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INXS1988 - You're right about Leigh Montagna pumping up Carlton.He spent a full 5 minutes saying Carlton was still ok and would probably play finals. I don't think he mentioned Collingwood.
But them David King shot him down by saying that there is a chasm between Carlton and Collingwood. Montagna sat there sheepishly while king tore his argument to bits.
As for our win, any win against Carlton is a good win. Let's not be greedy.
But them David King shot him down by saying that there is a chasm between Carlton and Collingwood. Montagna sat there sheepishly while king tore his argument to bits.
As for our win, any win against Carlton is a good win. Let's not be greedy.
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I’m really enjoying our teams goal celebrations There’s so much praise for the players involved in goal assists and the backline is coming from 100 metres away to show some love. Thought the goal sharing and team first mentality on the weekend was top shelf. There’s no selfishness and everyone is looking for a better option in F50 rather than having the blinkers on. In particular, the change in DeGoeys decision making and selflessness has been dramatic.
It all falls into that 1% category but that can make all the difference when you’re up against the best of the rest, come September.
It all falls into that 1% category but that can make all the difference when you’re up against the best of the rest, come September.
Gary Player “ the harder I practice, the luckier I get “